On Sports Center this morning, Clayton said...

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  1. gtexan02

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    3 things of interest for you offseason people out there:

    #1) Asante Samuel came off his best season ever. He publically said he doesn't want to follow in the footsteps of Ty Law, Deion Branch, David Givens, and Adam Vinatieri in leaving the Patriots. However, he also said he is primarily looking for a big pay check in the area of a Champ Bailey type deal (7 years, $65 million). It was also noted that his arm has a tatoo that reads, "Get Paid" Given the Patriots reluctance to pay their big name players and make stars out of nothing, expect him to go elsewhere.

    #2) The Texans have reportedly shown high interest in targeting Adrian Peterson in the draft at the #8 pick. Apparently the Texans FO said they preferentially want to try and get Joe Thomas, and if he falls they will draft him, but since he probably won't make it out of the top 5 (Arizona), they are targeting Peterson

    #3) The Texans have also reportedly targeted Jake Plummer to replace David Carr if he is released by the Broncos. Clayton made the same sort of statements that the Texans offense depends on someone being able to create outside the pocket, and that Plummer is one of the best QBs in the NFL at throwing while running. While not a star, he'd be an upgrade. He also made the point that up until last year, Plummer had shown significant improvement playing with Kubiak.
     
  2. Mr. White

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    Great post. Thanks GT.
     
  3. Ole Miss Texan

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    You think they're setting up a smokescreen like last year. pretending to be interested in mario and all....wait a minute nevermind.

    I see AP as being the most likely person to fall to us that somebody would want to trade up for. Rick Smith has said he's not going to reach and is going to take the bpa...but also said he's not against trading down if a player falls that other teams would want.

    I'd be okay either way. Peterson can make a big difference.
     
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    Great post but I hope the Texans don't do either of those things.

    Replacing DC with Jake is not an upgrade. I mean really, just look at his numbers from last year.

    And, we already have one back on the IR, do we really want another one?

    How stupid is our FO?
     
  5. yourfavoritetexan42

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    We need to sign either Samuel or Clements due to the fact that there is very little talent at the corner position in the draft. Leon Hall, the top rated corner, in my opinion is a top 2nd round talent, doesn't belong in the first round. Watch his games against Ohio State and USC. Those are the same receivers you'll be seeing in the nfl.

    If the Texans landed AP, that would be HUGE. That would be landing two number one picks two years in a row. And it would make us look really smart passing on Bush, because who cares, we have AP who, in my opinion, is much better than Bush overall. That would put is in a great position on offensive skill players... except the fact we don't have a very good offensive line. I really hope Spencer comes back healthy and Winston improves...
     
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    Looks like Smith is trying to raise the value of Peterson/#8 pick. Sounds like they are going to hype up the value and, assuming Thomas has been taken, see what kind of offers they get for the pick. If they get something deemed worthy they will move back, if not, take Peterson
     
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    In response to the Plummer question, you can't really compare last years numbers to this years, as his decline in performance can best be attributed to change in offensive coordinator. The best comparison would be to liken his 05 performance to Carrs 06 performance

    Secondly, while I'm not speaking stricly out of knowledge here, it seems that APs injury was a "freak accident" and that its nothing we should worry about.
     
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    I saw that on EPSN, too. Nice to see the Texans get some coverage, even with the backhanded swipes pertaining to last year's draft.

    If AP is available at the 8th pick, he's definitely BPA. It would be nice to see him in a Texans uni, and would definitely give many Texans fans a renewed sense of hope.

    Samuels would be a great addition, but we've got too many needs to tie up so much money with one position. I won't get my hopes up that we'll be in the running for that one.
     
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    The problem with being the Texans right now is that we are in a catch 22.

    I don't like the idea of signing FAs that are only interested in money, but at the same time, most FAs that we even have a shot at are only interested in money. Who knows if Samuels performance is purely indicative of his incentive to "get paid"

    My guess is that because of his "playoff performances" a legitimate contender will try and sign him. It'll be like Carlos Beltran
     
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    I would LOVE to get a good CB via FA. That would be HUGE for our draft. I will be SERIOUSLY butthurt if we draft AP. IMO, we are close to having a pretty dominant D. I would like to see us draft the best defensive player avilable at #8. We've seen flashes of brilliance from the offense. If we can get our Oline healthy all around and improved in a couple of spots, I think we can have a team like the Ravens. Carr or Sage would be able to keep us from losing games and let the D win them. It would be great if Al Davis did one of his wacky things and took Carr off our hands....
     
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    good post...let's see what our Texans do...:yes:
     
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    is it really that smart to tell people who your interested in, in the draft, cause now cleveland will be like trade with us or were pickin AP??
     
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    Smokescreen's. We're taking a punter #8.
     
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    I say let's trade with 'em. They could use another QB....:stirpot:
     
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    I don't think that's an issue....

    We have so many needs to fill that we can just take whoever they pass on or trade the pick totally....
     
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    This of course will be our first Draft with the Smith-Kubiak combo, and the
    first Draft that Casserly is not involved, so it might have a different look to it.
     
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    The Texans can't afford Samuel (with or without the s).

    AP at 8 works for me. So does trading down and getting an extra pick or two.

    Plummer is a definitely an upgrade - just not in the physical sense. Many will be surprised at how the OL 'improves' with a QB who's not jacked up between the ears. Plummer is not the answer and makes his share of mistakes, but he certainly has more fire in his belly and is more adept at doing the things NFL QBs are supposed to do, like seeing the entire field, not panicking when the #1 read isn't open, and being able to sidestep an onrushing linemen instead of going fetal every time. If all we need is a game manager, we already have Sage. We need a QB that can make something out of nothing once in a while.
     
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    Stupid is not seeing how Jake is an upgrade over David Carr. Take his first six years in the league, and you'll see he's accomplished more with as little as Carr's had in his first 5. Take Jakes last 3 years, and again you'll see he's earned the Starters job, where it's been given to David Carr.

    we also have a QB, two corners, an LT, two DTs, a Center, & a whole slew of players on IR.
     
  19. real

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    Thats how I feel about it....
     
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    I agree.... Samuels may very well have established himself as the top Corner in this league.. doesn't mean we should go running after him, especially considering the money he'll be asking for. He's setting himself, and whatever organization that signs him up for failure.

    Plummer........ I hope they stipulate that he's gotta ditch that faux mountain man look.
     

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