No word yet on Winston?

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  1. Superstar

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    I hope they sign him soon. I know his agent is equivelant to Scott Boras in MLB, but Mcnair can out smart that man. Scott Boras is such a :homer: .
     
  2. texanfan2100

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    From what I can tell, there can't be much to negotiate. All other picks are signed, so Winston gets whatever is left in the rookie pool. I would hope he'd see that he has a legitimate chance to be the starter at RT at some point this season, and that would motivate him to get into camp on time.
     
  3. PapaL

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    And/or get slightly less then Spencer whom was selected in the slot before.
     
  4. BigDTexansFan

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    am betting is agent busy with his BIG NAME clients and knowing Winston will get less than Spencer (lower cut in percentage) is not motivating him to get a deal done OR idiot thinks he can do a holdout and Texans will pay through nose. NEXT QUESTION..................ROFLMAO:shoot:
     
  5. nunusguy

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    That is probably what's going on, or Rick Smith or someone else who would be involved in contract preparation from the Texans FO is taking advantage
    of getting in a vacation right becfore TC.
    This is a slam dunk: we not only just completed the contract with the guy drafted imediately before Winston, he plays exactly the same position as Winston does. It couldn't get much more cut and dried than that as far as Winstons deal goes.
     
  6. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    I'd pay him exactly what I paid Spencer. This is a situation (one after the other) where the picks are interchangeable. I'd give him what we gave Spencer and call it a day.
     
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    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    I tend to agree with you, in that when I've heard the question asked why was one taken before the other, I have never really heard or read anything clarifying or justifying the order.
     
  8. Dunta_23

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    I wonder if it was more of a contractual thing in taking Spencer before Winston knowing that Winston was the higher profile of the two prior to the draft...this way Spencer may be happier with a bit less whereas if Winston was taken first he would drive his price up resulting in Spencers price going up...anyone follow?
     


  9. nunusguy

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    I don't think it was some kind of random thing at all, because I'd be surprised
    if they didn't truely value Spencer more than Winston, if only marginally.
    And I'd be very surprised if their contracts were equal because it would be an inequity for Spencer. IMO, one reason they took Spencer first was that they wanted him secured in the event they got a chance to trade their other pick in the third round which would probably mean they'd miss Winston.
     
  10. cap1

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    Your right. I agree here. I am sure he will be signed for the start of camp.
     
  11. PapaL

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    I'm tracking and a very good point. I'm against giving him the same amount. Be it a dollar less, it has to be less.
     
  12. cj5776

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    I think that is the whole break down on the contract talks, they don't play the same position. LTs get paid a whole lot more than RTs.
     
  13. texanfan2002114

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    On Fox 26 tonight, they reported that from league sources that Winston will not be a hold out and will be into camp on time.
     
  14. YoungTexanFan

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    Well, this excites me. I still see Winston being our future LT and Spencer our RT or RG. I just can't see Spencer at LT, regardless of how hard I try.
     
  15. cj5776

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    I used to share that opinion, because Spencer is much more of a power guy and very raw so the responsibility of protecting the qb blind side seems like way too much to ask of him. However the more I read about the zone blocking scheme, Winston and his aibilty to move athelically laterally seems like a better fit on the right side. Power blockers, like Spencer are not normally on the left but Winston does not seem to have enough power to handle the top notch pass rushers that come from that side.
     
  16. YoungTexanFan

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    Maybe I read it wrong, but you have it backwards. The finese guy who has quick feet and top technique plays LT. The bigger, less agile, more of a mauling run blocking type tend to play RT. Spence is HUGE. I like the guy, and I know he is quick for his size, but I still cannot see Spencer ever being able to hold down the LT job with Freeny rushing against him every year. Winston is very quick, has a good strong hand punch, and is a top talent technique wise. He isn't small either, he is 310lbs, but Spencer still has like 50lbs on him, and that is just insane. The ability to move laterally is needed by all of our linemen, especially our guards, but that does not designate Winston for RT IMO.
     
  17. swtbound07

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    I still have flashbacks to the FSU-MIAMI game watching winston get mauled....as much as i try, i cant get overly excited about this guy on our line
     
  18. ocd

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    And you will be proved correct this season barring injuries. I have said the same thing since draft day and just about everyone disagrees with me, which is fine.
     
  19. HOU-TEX

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    I would think they'd have to be proven commodities in order to differentiate between LT and RT pay scales.:twocents:
     
  20. Coach C.

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    The pay scale for Winston and Spencer will not be that far off. He is will get a little less than Spencer, and report to TC on time.
     

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