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  1. DRIFTAWAY

    DRIFTAWAY All Pro

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    David Carr

    If you go to the bottom of that page it has stuff on David Carr and it talks about him becoming the NFL's next great quartback along the lines of Peyton Manning and Daunte Culpepper. Also very good stuff on his play skills.
     
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    Can't say I disagree with him. Carr is going to be special.
     
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    ""I don't mean he's the next Chad Pennington or Trent Green," Joyner writes. "I mean he's possibly the next Manning (Peyton, not Eli) or Culpepper. Just take a look at his numbers from last year ... He ranked fourth in yards per attempt, third in tight/good coverage percentage and fifth in bad decision percentage. ... Besides ranking in first in deep completion percentage, he also ranked fourth in accurate deep pass percentage and fourth in deep yards per attempt."
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    High praise to be sure.
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    "We truly believed last season that Carr was being completely held back by his terrible offensive line and receiver group, and these numbers back it up. No team has frustrated us more this off-season with their inactivity than the Texans. Carr looks like he has the potential to be great. But he may continue to be limited by Houston's secondary receivers (Corey Bradford and Jabar Gaffney) and their offensive line."
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    Sounds like sentiments some on this board have had - but that's last year and I for one am gonna have an open mind and positive attitude for the upcoming season.
     
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    Great on Carr and really disses the O-Line and receivers. Kinda like our message board :cool:
     
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    I'm intrigued. If you're wondering what the author means by "bad decision" & "tight/good coverage", here are the definitions from his web site, The Football Scientist.

    OK, it's great that Carr has a good % throwing into good/tight coverage. That doesn't surprise me, Carr has a cannon and he's accurate. But if Carr is so great at throwing into coverage, how can he have a good "bad decision" percentage? That's defined as not throwing into coverage. :confused: I just bought the book, so when I figure it out, I'll let you know.
     
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    Maybe he differentiates between 'throwing' into coverage and actually 'forcing' it into coverage. If the pass is completed, then the risk was worth it. If it's tipped, well you live to play another down. If it's intercepted, then it counts strongly as a bad decision.
     
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    I think Carr's gonna be one of the best QB in the NFL.He shows great potential now.

    HOUSTON RULES !!!
     
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    A bad decision doesn't end in a completion for a TD. BTW the book is a little pricey for me, but I think I will get the draft guide.
     
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    I think the distinction is going to be primarily the positioning of the DB's and whether than can make and INT. Tight coverage on the far shoulder of the WR means the DB may bust up the play but is unlikely to get the INT. Tight coverage on the near shoulder or with another DB rolling over means not only that the DB may bust up the play but will have a good shot at picking the pass off. Another option is how the ball was thrown. In the Vikings game last year it seemed to have dawned on DC that he could throw a ball higher than he would for most WR's even into tight double coverage and AJ would just go up and get it--that's a ball which won't get INT'd by most DB's except off a deflection.
     
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    Carr is the real deal and can be a great QB,he just needs more protection.
     
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    Yeah it could mean something like that. I would find it problematical to ascertain these differences over each pass thrown in the NFL. I'm not sure if you can see all of these things from a TV feed. How much is objective, how much subjective?

    I'n not dismissing his numbers, just suggesting that he's taken an awful big bite of data here. And I'm not sure how he came upon it. I can't help it - I'm a born cynic. Still, if I learn 1 thing from this book, a single bet can cover the expense.
     
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    If you're referring to the crossing route with the high pass at the back of the end zone, I watched them practice that play quite a bit in the free training camps last year, as well as before games in warm-ups. So I doubt it just dawned on him, but maybe the situation was right for him to hit it that way. I love that play, though. Aside from the falling on his head part (yikes!), I wouldn't mind seeing that play get utilized more frequently. Perhaps it's the injury potential of leaving your feet near a defender that's kept them from doing it.
     
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    I know what the vision cone is but say if you were playing whats the point of the cone and all that why does it matter, and what are the advantages of having a big vision cone compared to a smaller one? just curious
     
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    You can only throw to receivers inside the vision cone.
     
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    Carr IMO should have a great career with the Texans. He is a great QB and I'm very very happy for you guys down there in Houston. Carr to Johnson should be so much fun to watch for a decent number of years. You Texans are rising up the NFL charts and I'm very happy about that. :)
     
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