NFLPA files collusion claim

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  1. Blake

    Blake MMQB

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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/01/18/nflpa-collusion.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

    I would have to side with the players here. The owners reworking the TV deals to get more money in case of a lockout, also gives them an unfair advantage in negotiations with the players union.
     
  2. steelbtexan

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    It's called smart business.

    Doty will screw the owners over again. He's the judge that introduced FA to the NFL. He has ruled against the NFL in every case thats come before him.

    I would say that he will continue to rule against the NFL. He apparently has a case of the red a** against the owners.

    Not that I feel any sympathy for the Uncle BoB's and Jerrahs of the would.

    Ruling for the players will help avoid a lockout. Although proving collusion would be next to impossible if this case was in anybodys court but judge David Doty.
     
  3. TEXANRED

    TEXANRED Texan-American

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    I don't feel sorry for any of them.

    Does it not bother some of you that these guys signing bonus' are lottery winning type money?

    Maybe if the players didn't make so much I could afford to go to more games.
     
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  4. TheIronDuke

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    Yeah but at the same time the owners are making WAY more than the players. Not that I feel sorry for either side but I side with the athletes that put their bodies on the line more than I do the owners who sit in their box and make far more doing so.
     
  5. infantrycak

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    Not sure it is fair to compare the owner against one player. The players for each team make $130 mil per season. Doubt McNair makes that much per year.
     
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    Yep! And while the players take the physical risk, the financial risk is all on the owner.
     
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    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    And McNair could be making millions elsewhere. Generally not true for the players.
     
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    Yeah most of them would be in the 100K range per year at best
     


  9. steelbtexan

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    BoB has made an estimated 750 mil profit on his 700 mil investment in 9 yrs.

    That doesn't appear to be enough $$$$ for BoB.

    I'm generally on the owners side of these negs though.
     
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    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    My house has increased in value since I bought it in 2003 also. There is no way I could sell it in this market for what it's "worth". There is no way that McNair could sell the franchise for 1.45 billion in this economy. So he has not realized the profit gain at this point.
     
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    There's not a whole lotta financial risk in owning an NFL team these days with the TV deals. You'd be hard-pressed to find a broke NFL team owner. Bob makes a killing and will continue to do so and doesn't even have to worry about fielding a competitive team, what "risk" has he taken?
     
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    Sorry but this type of thinking is delusional - that's just not how it works. The tickets adapt to market prices and they always will. Owners will keep the ticket prices high enough that they can fill the stadiums but not low enough that there is surplus demand. If the cost of running the team, including players salaries, goes down, it just means the owner will pocket more money.
     
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    But McNair doesn't have to realize his profit through a sale. The valuation allows him to borrow against it.
     
  14. steelbtexan

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    This is a fact

    Something that most people dont understand.

    It's nothing like owning a house/property values vs what a house actually will sell for. It's 2 entirely different things,
     
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    True, but if you sell the equity in this investment, you dilute your portion of ownership and your portion of the earnings, perhaps even to the point of losing actual control. Also, the players get 60% of the leagues money. Near as I recollect that's more than 40%. So, the players are actually getting more than the owners, just more folks dividing the pot so smaller amounts per individual. Some owners like Jerry Jones make a bunch of cash on other items that they don't share with the league. That is also an issue amongst the owners as the total earnings within the league are not equally split.
     
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    Yes, the players have no employment options that approach the kind of compensation they get while doing something they love to do in the NFL. On the other hande the owners have many varied opportunities worldwide to invest their wealth. Lets hope there's enough intelligent players in the NFL to realize this and not permit their agents and other reps to screw-up the great deal they have going for themselves ?
     
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    If the NFL season gets screwed up next year there is no right group to side with here. The players, owners, and NFL league management are all guilty.
     
  18. Double Barrel

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    I'd buy into this if they financed their own stadiums instead of conning taxpayers to pay for it.
     
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    I think they still have to tie up large chunks of capital.
     
  20. GP

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    I won't even go that far.

    To think that placing an NFL franchise in Houston is, a "financial gamble," is laughable.

    Yeah, what a HUGE risk McNair took. HUGE! LOL.

    The hard part is getting a franchise OK'd by the NFL, it's Easy Street from there on out. McNair knows this, which is why he's taking the slow approach to everything. It's all about maintaining what you have and limiting risk.
     

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