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  1. Sigma

    Sigma All Pro

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    I usually go to nfl.com for stats and I noticed that our defense is 1st in total yards.

    You win games with points tho, not yards. So I looked where the defense is in terms of Points allowed per game

    and on nfl.com our defense is tied-25th with 27.8 p/g (139 points total)

    but actually 139 is the total Points scored against the texans, included the 4 pick 6s.

    Is there a site with better stats description?
    I would like to compare the points allowed by the defenses.

    (punts, kicks, interceptions or fumbles returned for TD should not fall on the defense in my opinion)
     
  2. Lucky

    Lucky Moderator

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    You also have short fields where the opposition scores after a Texan turnover. How much of that goes on the defense (San Diego's 1st TD for instance)?
     
  3. Speedy

    Speedy Yeller Dweller

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    Take away the pick 6s and the Texans are still ranked 16th in points allowed.

    I don't know how Troy Aikman arrives at his efficiency ratings, but he's got the Texans D rated 20th.

    Aikman Efficiency Ratings
     
  4. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    I tabbed this from a couple of years ago.


    link

    Aikman's ratings on how he ranks teams are based on a lot more statistics that MATTER outside of just "yards per game" gained and allowed, offensively or defensively. It's a lot more telling of the story than just points per game scored/allowed.
     
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  5. dream_team

    dream_team Hall of Fame

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    4 points goes to the defense. That was no fluke due to short fields. Our red zone defense is horrible!
     
  6. Rey

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    Honestly, I don't think the defense is all that great which is why I'm not excited about our prospects this season. We aren't consistent over there and our secondary has a penchant for giving up big plays.
     
  7. cbs1507

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    Technically defense is only giving up 18 ppg without Matt Schaub's errors. But even then we are terrible at red zone % and at forcing turnovers which is a better metric for good defense. "Total defense" is totally overrated.
     
  8. infantrycak

    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    You can't take away the "non defense" points for the Texans and then compare to the league without doing the same for them.
     


  9. kingtexan

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    Stats, numbers, rankings ... all worthless.

    You can see if a player can play by watching the player play, no matter what the numbers are. Schaub has proven that his entire career. Great numbers at times by a horrible QB.

    Only numbers that will ever matter in football are the ones on the scoreboard at the end of the game.
     
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  10. thunderkyss

    thunderkyss Salem Poor

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    We're talking about the defense.
     
  11. HouTx11

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    When the team is losing, the only stat that matters to many is the win/loss column.
     
  12. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    I am so tired of hearing about yardage with this team. It's meaningless.
     
  13. hradhak

    hradhak Site Contributor

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    How much of that is the defense giving up at the end of a game because they get deflated?

    I'd be hard pressed to keep going when your offense is gifting points.
     
  14. tedr

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    True.

    Also, I'd imagine our defense is having to take more chances than they normally would to try to make something happen, due to the offense's performance.

    Our defense can certainly improve, but they are definitely not the problem this year.
     
  15. b0ng

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    yeah man stats are totally worthless. JUST THE EYE TEST FOR ME GOOD SIR!
     
  16. dream_team

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    At the same time, how hard is the opposing offense playing if they've already jumped out to a big lead because of the turnovers? (ie. Ravens & 49ers game) I think the stats would be alot worse if the offense was on fire and we were killing teams.
     

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