Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by Wolf, Jul 20, 2007.
Great. The NFL really needs a physically soft, over-rated and passive player too.
The Texans already had one...and David Carr isn't even Chinese.
If you are implying that yao ming is any of those, I suggest you watch 1 basketball game and then return here.
If you are suggesting that all Chinese are all of those, I suggest you take a step back and try and realize how ignorant trying to stereotype billions of people is
Well I've never seen a 7'5 center get dunked on with so much regularity. I've never seen a 7'5 center get boxed out with so much regularity. I'm not suggesting a Chinese can't play, but if he was the best they had too offer I can only hope that they produce someone better. And don't say "But he has a nice shot. He's a center he should control the paint. That's like saying Reggie Bush is a great receiver, problem is he's supposed to be a running back. I'm saying Yao is terrible, but he ain't all that.
I guess you never watched Chuck Nevitt???
If getting dunked on is the way of measuring how good someone is, no wonder the NBA is going to be in shambles. Sportscenter has killed the NBA (refs getting caught in gambling ring doesn't help either).
Getting Dunked on and boxed out is how you judge how valuable a player is ?
Nevermind the fact that he's one of the most efficient scorer's in the leauge and his mere presence on defense keeps opposing offenses from having their way in the lane...
Let's just call him sorry because he's been the victim of some sports center highlights...
I suppose you'd rather have a guy like Eric Dampier...Or maybe even a Ben Wallace...
Was he a Number 1 overall pick too? Didn't think so.
Yao does not dominate the paint. I don't see it. I don't want Dampier, but it looks like a guy like Boozer can handle this "dominant" force with relative ease.
No Yao doesn't dominate the paint...
But he's not a total beotch in the paint either...
He's either the 1st or 2nd best center in the leauge depending on your cup-o-tea....
And Boozer is a really good player but he cannot guard Yao one on one.
I just responded to your question. Your question didnt ask about being a #1.
Dude Yao is the best center in the league today, get off of it...... You want to talk about soft. See the entire eastern conference.... thats soft.
BTW...Yao pulled down the same amount of boards as Wallace, he's a 25 and 10 player, go look how many of those play in this league and get back with me.
Yao is overrated. He is not a dominant player, like centers should be. He cannot take over a game, on offense or defense.
there you go again...trying to inject logic into this. whatsamotta you?
25 and 10 is not overrated....... go look how many of those there are.
People that say Yao is overrated don't know anything about basketball and just don't realize what they've got.
I don't go as far as chicagotexan in my disdain for Yao, but this argument is really damning with faint praise. Yao is probably the best center in the NBA (especially pre-injury last year), but that's kind of like being the best-behaved kid in detention. There aren't many solid centers anymore.
Yao disappears when he shouldn't and plays soft when he shouldn't. Yeah, he gets his points and rebounds, but hey, Carr led the league in pass completion percentage. Yay. And Yao sucks at rebounding, really, when you consider how big he is and where he plays.
All that said, I like Yao, and I think he will continue to improve and dispel some of these arguments against him. He's a lot better than chicagotexan gives him credit for, IMO.
Yao is not the greatest rebounder and he doesn't have the footspeed to be a great defender. Everybody likes to bash the guy and say "for a 7'5 guy, he isn't this, or for a 7'5 guy he isn't that, or he's soft."
When in reality Yao's size makes him clumsy, he would actually be a much better defender and rebounder if he was like 3 or 4 inches shorter, because he would be able to MOVE.
Another thing that has hurt Yao is the lack of a banger PF to keep big bodies off Yao. Yao gets beat up in the paint, because again there is no PF presence on the team. (atleast last year there wasn't) Even the great Olajuwon had Otis Thorpe. (no I'm not comparing Yao to Olajuwon, just saying many people don't realize how much not having a PF really is hampering Yao. A good PF is a Center's best friend. It keeps big bodies off of him, making him a better defender, and keeps him out of foul trouble.)
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