NFL considering proposal to abolish/modify extra points

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  1. srrono

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  2. Texn4life

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    Ohhhhh Roger! Why don't you worry about how to fix that mess that almost happened in the biggest game of the year last night? For a smart dude he can come off as really dumb sometimes.
     
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    I don't even see how this will hurt kickers (last sentence in article). Taking away that kick doesn't lessen their value at all. It's the 3-pointers that they get all their value from.
     
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    I kinda like the idea.
     
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    Just make them kick the extra point from the 20 yard line so it's not so automatic.
     
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    It isn't either or. They are going to look at a bunch of issues including the fumble from last night.

    Would be kind of cool if made the points vary by distance.

    40+ 1 pt
    50+ 2 pts
    60+ 3 pts
     
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    What they should do is narrow the uprights. Field goals have become almost automatic, even from well over 40 yards.
     
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    Because only one problem can be addressed during the offseason?
     


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    Have you been watching our kickers? Automatic from 40??...I would suggest ours should be just a little wider...
     
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    I like that idea! Introduces some strategic depth into the game while still maintaining ties to the old 'three downs and a cloud of dust' heritage. :thumbup
     
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    86% for all kicks this year, shows how bad 72 percent from Bullock is in modern standards.

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    http://www.bloguin.com/thisgivensun...teresting-stats-from-the-2013-nfl-season.html


    86.5: That was the average field goal success percentage, league-wide, which was actually up 2.6 points from last season. There were only six misses on 242 attempts inside 30 yards, and kickers hit 93 percent of their kicks inside 40 yards. It's not even a challenge anymore. In fact, they hit 67 percent of their field goals from beyond 50 yards. That's a mark that had never been reached on field goals of any length until the 1981 season. A record 99.6 extra points were converted this year.
     
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    Gimme 7 or option for 2/6 is one thing...

    Moving kick back is another...

    But the option to put the ball up at the 2 yard line would materially change the game. I hope that one is off the table.
     
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    I'd rather see the extra point abolished in favor of making the team always go for 2.
     
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    Actual fg kickers aside if you had an option when going for two of a pass/run play or fg kick how far of a kick would it have to be for the two options to be roughly even?
     
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    http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/team-two-point-conversion-statistics/2013/

    Over the years, the average success rate of two point conversions in the NFL has been around 50% (compared to a near 100% conversion on the single extra point).

    Currently, kickers make 67% of kicks beyond 50 yards (see previous post of mine), so a rough estimate would be 55-60 yards out.
     
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    Seriously? I was not aware of this new development! Awesome!
     
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    I think they should just have the players roll out onto the field and have the coaches pick teams.
     
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    Exactly. 72% would have been Canton material 40-50 years ago.

    Lou Groza made 54.9%.
    Jan Stenerud made 66.8%, and was only 17-64 from 50+.

    Morten Andersen -- long the "gold standard" for automatic kickers -- made 79.7%, and the telling thing about the evolution of the game is that he NEVER made less than 80% in his seven seasons after turning 40.

    Our current kicking woes aside, field goals have become way too easy in the NFL.
     
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    I don't know about the concept of "longer is more points". I hate the concept of penalizing good defense, even though I recognize a PAT isn't a field goal. That's why I hate the three point shot in basketball. Too often I see a team play lock down defense on an opponent trying to penetrate and get in for a good shot, only to kick it out to some three-point specialist with 5 seconds on the shot clock and drain a three-pointer. The defense gives up one point more than they would have if they didn't play such good interior defense.
     
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    Kinda defeats the purpose of getting the extra yards in certain situations, though.

    I think they should just have the automatic extra point or go for 2 choice and/or consider making the goal posts closer together. Probably both. The extra point play is bathroom break time.
     

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