Discussion in 'College Football & the NFL Draft' started by MojoX, Mar 23, 2005.
Hopefully this will crowd the top ten with RBs and push talent we want closer to 13.
I've seen him compared to Emmitt Smith in places on the net. At first I didn't see it but I see why after watching him more. Personally, I think he has a style like Stephen Davis (but in an obviously smaller body), and moves like Edge James (but not as fast as him). I'd love to see him fall to 13.
I actually think I'd be excited to have him on the team, too. I've just been hoping that somehow DJ or Merriman fall to the Texans.
So does this change how any of you guys rank the RBs?
Not me, I have him pretty high myself. Not everyone is sold on him though. 610am had a teaser a moment ago and said the news was "bad" for him off of this workout. They are about to have Lance's report in a moment.
I bet on most boards he is now the # 2 and on some boards he jumped to #1, The argument comes back that if Ronnie Brown wasnt the sure fire #1 RB on his TEAM, how can he be the sure fire #1 in the draft class.....I rank them like this
1. Ronnie Brown/Cedric Benson
2. Cadillac Williams
Post the news, will ya'. I'm not in Houston.
[Disclaimer--Not saying anything specifically about Benson as a RB or his draft prospects.]
This looks a little like prospect hype just in the drafting of the report--4.51-4.59 at a pro-day not the combine is now reason for rejoicing. DD got slammed for a 4.62 at the combine. Didn't Casserly just say he adds .1 to pro-day results? This has nothing to do with DD or Benson, just the observation that the exact same measureables will get described differently for top prospects and lower prospects/players. On the same draft sites you will see a 210 lb top RB prospect described as having good size and then a latter round prospect who is 220 lbs as undersized. Just seems like they change their terminology to match their rankings rather than just saying they measure the same but player A is just better at the unmeasurables like vision, etc.
Lance is saying that he ran mid 4.6's but his information was from emails and text messages. It will be interesting to see who's time is accurate.
1. Ronnie Brown, Auburn 6002 233 4.44 18
2. Cadillac Williams Auburn 5107 217 4.45 19
3. Cedric Benson, Texas 5104 225 4.65 18
not sure who's time to believe but mid 4.6's seems accurate for Benson
Benson running 4.6's shouldn't surprise anyone. His only real knock is his straight line speed. Interesting to note that Chris Palmer was there in person.
If I'm not mistaken UTs proday is done on grass .
Yeah, here is the entire quote from Gil...
Ths doesn't change anything...Benson is still the 3rd ranked RB IMO...That said, I think he is the #1 RB for our scheme...I would love to see him fall to 13...
if Benson becomes a Texan I hope they consider bringing in his FB Will Matthews
The weight lifting was done in the weight room (duh). They did the running drills under the bubble. "Apparently" it registers as a slower track than the indoor track in the weight room.
But the mid-4.5s is about right for Benson.
I am a bit confused. I thought Benson only ran at his proday, but Gill is reporting 4.5s and others are reporting 4.6s. Which is it? 4.5s for a back his size isn't too bad, but 4.6s are slow and will affect his draft point IMO.
I was listening to 610 today and they were saying that Brandt pumps up certain players and makes their workout numbers better than they really were...Supposedly only one scout at the workout clocked Benson under 4.6...
a tenth of a second makes a back go from not too bad to too slow???
As much as I like Will, he doesn't want to be an NFL player...he even refused to talk to the scouts at the LVAAC all star game in february
Just as a point of order--evidently so. DD ran a 4.62 at the combine which was considered disappointing and resulted in the Texans taking him in the 4th. Other talents aside, we have all seen the complaints about not having the speed to take it to the house--yes people will complain about speed regardless of the effectiveness of the RB and yes it can affect their draft position.
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