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  1. Wolf

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    By Michael Lombardi NFL.com

    Offensive rankings
    Blue chip
    Andre Johnson, Texans

    Red Chip
    Matt Schaub, Texans
    Arian Foster, Texans


    Defensive Rankings


    Blue chip
    Mario Williams, Texans

    Red Chip
    Johnathan Joseph, Texans
     
  2. Goatcheese

    Goatcheese Nightmare Over

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    Open Daniels is a blue chipper. Damn you Buffailo turf!!!

    Putting Foster bellow Turner, Rice and Jackson is pretty :mcnugget:.
     
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    Daniels doesn't belong on that list.

    ....but Demeco Ryans? I wonder how many spots he missed by...

    How 'bout the dig on Eric Winston?
    "It's no coincidence all 10 play left tackle; it's where the best linemen play."
     
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    We need to trade our blue chip defensive player fast before everyone outside of Houston realizes he sucks.
     
  5. Goatcheese

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    Go back and watch the last quarter of the season and the games leading up to his injury in Buffailo in '09. Daniels is right there with the best.

    He's only rated 5th. They've already caught on and we won't be able to get a late 7th for him.
     
  6. DocBar

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    That was the Mario Williams formerly known as an NFL DE. This OLB version is not to be found on these list's. IMO, WP spoke the truth of this situation shortly after he was named DC.
     
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    It's going only by last year and Ryans missed pretty much all of last year, but any normal year I think he'd be a red chip at the very least.

    Ryans is a tackling machine! He was our best defensive player IMO before that injury and I think it is more than a coincidence that once he went down the Texans started to LOSE those close games rather than WIN them.
     
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    We should CONSIDER trading our WOLB ( Mario Williams) because he's changing positions, in the last year of his contract and not doing so well in the whole changing positions thing.

    Winston's best play comes on Sirius NFL channel. He's spotty at best in pass pro and not a great fit for ZBS. He prefers to road grade on run blocking.
     


  9. badboy

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    Blue chippers : AJ, Schaub & Foster
    Red chippers: Mario, a healthy Ryans

    Possible Blue Chippers this season: Mario, Tate, OD, Reed
    Possible Red Chipper this season: Walter, Barwin, Duane Brown
     
  10. Lucky

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    How is Schaub a blue chip QB? Yes, he's put up solid numbers. But, you have to win more games than you lose to be considered elite. You have to QB in some big games and win a few.

    Matt hasn't made it. I hope he does. I think he can. But, he hasn't.
     
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    Schaub is not AJ. Having said that, using your statement, AJ has not won any more playoff games or SBs than Matt. I think Matt's passing yardage compares favorably to AJ's receiving yardage. I would agree that AJ is at upper "limit" and Schaub at a lower level of blue chip.
     
  12. Lucky

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    QBs are judged versus other QBs. It's the most important position on the field...by far. That he has the luxury of the best receiver in the game at his disposal possibly inflates Matt's stats. There's just no way Schaub can be put on the level of Manning, Brady, or Brees...yet.
     
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    Foster has had one amazing year. Slaton had 1 great year too. Id like to see someone perform for more than 1 year before calling them a blue chipper. I think Foster is rated correctly
     
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    I do not limit blue chip to those 3 QBs or top 5. I think Schaub could be #6 right now and after this season, top 5.
     
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    How many first full season players are the #1 at their position in NFL? Any blue chipper having a bad season this year will drop down the ranks. A 5 year blue chipper is more valuable than a 3 year blue chipper but both are blue.
     
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    "1 year blue chipper" doesnt make sense though. A blue chip is someone you can count on year in and year out
     
  17. steelbtexan

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    Blue, AJ

    Red

    Schaub, Joseph, Foster,

    Possible red

    Cushing, Barwin, Ryans, D.Brown, Ryans, Watt
     
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    Then how did Ndamukong Suh make the blue chip list? At #2 no less....
     
  19. SteveSlaton20

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    really? he's easily better than 4 of the guys on red chip and 1 on blue chip.
     
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    "Andre Johnson is so 'blue chip' if he drank Dos Equis I'd be out of a job"
     

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