National pundits put an end to debate over the best WR in the NFL

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by Texan JBZ, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. Texan JBZ

    Texan JBZ Da Sip's Finest

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2008
    Messages:
    1,444
    Likes Received:
    183
    Location:
    Houston, Texas, Home of the Texans!
  2. Cjeremy635

    Cjeremy635 Overtraining

    Joined:
    May 27, 2005
    Messages:
    7,696
    Likes Received:
    862
    Location:
    Huffman, Texas
  3. m5kwatts

    m5kwatts Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2007
    Messages:
    1,970
    Likes Received:
    159
    I think clearly Andre and Fitz are above the field.....the case for Andre being #1: Fitz had only 1 game of 10+ receptions...Andre had 7

    heres my rankings:

    1. Andre
    2. Fitz

    (spaces to indicate how much better those two are)

    3. Calvin Johnson
    4. Randy Moss
    5. Steve Smith
     
  4. brakos82

    brakos82 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2006
    Messages:
    19,847
    Likes Received:
    978
    Location:
    LOHAR (Land of Hipsters and Rain)
    I'm gonna go out on a bit of a limb and say Calvin Johnson is probably closer to being an elite WR. He's only had two years under his belt, and he's stuck in Detroit, similar to Andre was back in '03-05.
     
  5. HOU-TEX

    HOU-TEX Ah, Football!

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2006
    Messages:
    16,151
    Likes Received:
    1,091
    Location:
    P-land
    I agree. If, and when, he has a QB and a few other puzzle pieces surrounding him, the dude's going to be an absolute beast.
     
  6. infantrycak

    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    55,599
    Likes Received:
    2,690
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    I'll go halves on this one. In 2007 Kitna had just under 4100 yards of passing. AJ was never on the receiving end of that kind of blitz with Carr under center. But CJ does look like a beast.
     
  7. m5kwatts

    m5kwatts Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2007
    Messages:
    1,970
    Likes Received:
    159
    Well #3 isn't too bad either considering who I put him ahead of, I haven't seen anybody putting him that high. He is a beast and will be the best receiver in the NFL some day.
     
  8. False Start

    False Start On # 69

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2005
    Messages:
    13,619
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Location:
    Waiting For the Turning Point!
    All of the haters on there crack me up. They would take AJ on their team any day. They are just pissed their guy was not number one, I guess just like we would be of AJ wasn't there. He is though, and its the absolute truth. :cool: :jam:
     


  9. nero THE zero

    nero THE zero Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2007
    Messages:
    2,749
    Likes Received:
    184
    Location:
    Spring
    Even though Sapp ranked Moss ahead of ahead, he said AJ is the next coming of Jerry Rice.

    Sapp's got a lot of nice things to say about our team.
     
  10. b0ng

    b0ng Ooops

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2007
    Messages:
    7,891
    Likes Received:
    613
    WR discussions bring out the worst in people. Fans get very protective of pass catchers on their teams.

    I will say that having 8 TD's as your season high is something critics will ALWAYS point out.
     
  11. m5kwatts

    m5kwatts Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2007
    Messages:
    1,970
    Likes Received:
    159
    Heard the TD argument many times before with AJ. I'll put it this way---TDs are nothing more than 1st downs that count for 6 points...and AJ led the league with 79 first downs--thats 12 (twelve!) more than #2 on the list Tony Gonzalez a freaking tight end who doesn't run as many down field routes as AJ. No one does more dirty work between the 20s than AJ. You can think of it as a knock against him (not catching TDs) but in a way its arbitrary
     
  12. gary

    gary Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2006
    Messages:
    22,352
    Likes Received:
    839
    Location:
    Wheelchair
    Sapp does not seem to make uneducated remarks he gives our Texans love and knows about the game I like him.
     
  13. Andrew6

    Andrew6 Site Contributor

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,092
    Likes Received:
    249
    Location:
    League City
    i think Steve smith is a hell of a WR. I would put him up at the top. he has alot of YAC and is very hard to bring down.
     
  14. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2004
    Messages:
    19,228
    Likes Received:
    1,981
    I was in the book store today and AJ was on the cover of Athlon's magazine (I forget the name).
     
  15. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    17,208
    Likes Received:
    1,437
    [​IMG]
     
  16. 76Texan

    76Texan Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2006
    Messages:
    13,583
    Likes Received:
    529
    Nice!
    The more exposure, the better for the team.
     
  17. NitroGSXR

    NitroGSXR Super Sic #58

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2006
    Messages:
    10,855
    Likes Received:
    995
    Location:
    Annapolis, MD
    I really dislike the comments section sometimes. There should be an educational requirement before one is allowed to post a comment. Bleh.

    *sigh*

    That being said, it was interesting reading what other people had to say about the rankings. Some brought a good argument against Johnson being #1 in the NFL link given in the first post of this thread. I really do enjoy that part of the comments section as long as it carries merit.
     
  18. ubecool454

    ubecool454 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2004
    Messages:
    1,436
    Likes Received:
    44
    I think on any given weekend any of the first 5 listed could be #1. I give my vote to dre' because he is the most physical of the bunch.
     
  19. barrett

    barrett Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    May 31, 2007
    Messages:
    2,711
    Likes Received:
    282
    Location:
    Austin
    and the nicest!
     
  20. J. Sean Wonton

    J. Sean Wonton Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2009
    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    46
    If you rank receivers currently playing and include their entire careers, then I think Moss is ahead of Johnson, but Moss is downhill at the moment while Johnson is at the top of his game. I can see how Sapp would would rank Moss over Johnson in this way since Sapp maybe remembers Moss' career in a different way as a player during those years. My one counter of the top of my head and not knowing a lot about it is that I think Johnson would have played better made a bigger difference during those Oakland years if he was in that situation. Why? Because he did it in Houston. I didn't like how Moss' seemed to take off during that time. I admit that I don't know, but it's my impression. I can see how a competitor might even lose motivation in such a situation. I'm just a lot more impressed with a guy like Johnson who has no quit in him.

    Oh, and Steve Smith is one of my favorites on that list after AJ. It's his toughness and heart that I like versus the amazing physical gifts of Calvin Johnson and the "artistic" ability of Larry Fitzgerald. I'm just not into Randy Moss. He reminds me of Terrell Owens without the passion (meaning he's more into the "I am a business" mindset to me). It may be unfair and ignorant, but it's my impression.
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2009

Share This Page