My statement to John McClain

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  1. Ibar_Harry

    Ibar_Harry Hall of Fame

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    John Below is a play by play of the 1st Qtr. I've been upset with the Texans coaching and offense for a long time. However, I wanted to disagree with you about the defense playing well. In the 1st Qtr the bend don't break defense allowed the Bills and Losman close to 90% of the playing time. The defense never stopped the drives and didn't allow our offense to get a start. There were no stops of the other team and that controlled the Texans by keeping them off of the field offensively. No QB is going to be warm when he sits as long as David did nor is he going to get in the game when the OC is calling a run on 1st down most of the game. I honestly believe the defense is broken as much as the offense, but people don't think so because of the lack of scoring. However, when Houston did score the defense immediately gave back the touchdown on the next drive. No, I'm sorry, but nothing is going well. The injury to Mathis I believe was also a negative, because we had no special teams play of any note which I believe the Texans have placed some high hopes for. This is what we have been seeing all along and nobody would allow anybody to question the coaching staff. Its very simple. The Bills fired their head coach and the new one said we have to go out and fix the left side of the Bills line by getting a LT and LG. He did that, so the question is why couldn't Houston do the same. In addition my observations were that the Texans were using the roll out to try to minimize O-line problems, but as soon as the other teams realized that all you need to do is contain Carr from rolling out the offense was over and done with because the O-line could not contain the rush up the middle. That has been happening for sometime. Those kinds of weaknesses are picked up in a hurry. I appreciate your candor and I hope others do, because this is a talented ball club that is being very badly coached and managed.

    We had 7 offensive plays in the 1st qtr and 1 punt. The 1st series was a 3 and out and the 2nd one ended on an INT on 3rd down. You can not get your rythm with that kind of possession time.



    IbarHarry



    Houston Texans at 15:00

    K.Brown kicks 67 yards from HST 30 to BUF 3. T.McGee to BUF 19 for 16 yards (D.Polk).
    Buffalo Bills at 14:55
    1-10-BUF19 (14:55) (Shotgun) J.Losman pass to J.Reed to BUF 25 for 6 yards (C.Brown). Caught at BUF 22, right side.
    2-4-BUF25 (14:18) W.McGahee up the middle to BUF 23 for -2 yards (C.Brown).
    3-6-BUF23 (13:37) (Shotgun) J.Losman pass to E.Moulds to BUF 31 for 8 yards (A.Peek). Caught over middle at BUF 29. Penalty on HST-M.Greenwood, Defensive Offside, declined.
    1-10-BUF31 (13:16) W.McGahee up the middle to BUF 33 for 2 yards (R.Smith; J.Babin).
    2-8-BUF33 (12:35) J.Losman pass to L.Evans pushed ob at BUF 42 for 9 yards (P.Buchanon). Caught at BUF 40, right sideline. Penalty on HST-S.Payne, Defensive Offside, declined.
    1-10-BUF42 (12:16) J.Losman pass to L.Evans to HST 16 for 42 yards (P.Buchanon). Caught at HST 30, right side.
    1-10-HOU16 (11:29) J.Losman pass to W.McGahee to HST 8 for 8 yards (D.Robinson, R.Smith). Screen left, caught at HST 20. W.McGahee injured on play, walks off.
    PENALTY on BUF-M.Gandy, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at HST 16 - No Play.
    1-20-HOU26 (11:02) S.Williams right guard to HST 23 for 3 yards (J.Babin, G.Walker).
    2-17-HOU23 (10:23) J.Losman pass to M.Campbell to HST 16 for 7 yards (G.Walker). Dump pass right, caught at HST 27.
    3-10-HOU16 (9:33) (Shotgun) J.Losman pass incomplete to S.Aiken. Overthrown, receiver at HST 3, left side.
    4-10-HOU16 (9:28) R.Lindell 35 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-M.Schneck, Holder-B.Moorman.
    HOU 0 BUF 3, Plays: 10 Yards: 65 Possession: 5:36.

    Buffalo Bills at 09:24
    R.Lindell kicks 51 yards from BUF 30 to HST 19. M.Bruener to HST 30 for 11 yards (J.Stamer).
    Houston Texans at 09:19
    1-10-HOU30 (9:19) D.Carr pass to D.Davis to HST 32 for 2 yards (J.Posey). Dump pass right, caught at HST 31.
    2-8-HOU32 (8:41) D.Davis right tackle to HST 35 for 3 yards (N.Clements, S.Adams).
    3-5-HOU35 (8:00) (Shotgun) D.Carr sacked at HST 27 for -8 yards (A.Schobel).
    4-13-HOU27 (7:40) C.Stanley punts 45 yards to BUF 28, Center-B.Pittman. N.Clements to BUF 34 for 6 yards (J.Wells).
    Buffalo Bills at 07:28
    1-10-BUF34 (7:28) J.Losman pass to L.Evans pushed ob at HST 49 for 17 yards (P.Buchanon). Caught along right sideline at 50.
    1-10-HOU49 (6:45) W.McGahee left tackle to HST 49 for no gain (K.Wong; G.Walker).
    2-10-HOU49 (6:01) J.Losman pass to M.Campbell to HST 38 for 11 yards (P.Buchanon; M.Greenwood). Caught in right flat at HST 40.
    1-10-HOU38 (5:19) J.Losman right end to HST 31 for 7 yards (K.Wong).
    2-3-HOU31 (4:34) W.McGahee right tackle to HST 31 for no gain (P.Buchanon).
    PENALTY on HST-S.Payne, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at HST 31 - No Play.
    1-10-HOU26 (4:05) J.Losman pass to E.Moulds pushed ob at HST 7 for 19 yards (P.Buchanon). Caught along right sideline at HST 7.
    1-7-HOU7 (3:33) J.Losman pass incomplete to J.Reed. Overthrown, receiver in rear right corner of end zone.
    2-7-HOU7 (3:27) J.Losman left end pushed ob at HST 6 for 1 yard (A.Peek).
    3-6-HOU6 (2:58) (Shotgun) J.Losman right end pushed ob at HST 3 for 3 yards (G.Walker).
    PENALTY on HST-A.Peek, Defensive Offside, 3 yards, enforced at HST 6 - No Play.
    3-3-HOU3 (2:31) W.McGahee left guard to HST 3 for no gain (T.Johnson).
    4-3-HOU3 (1:48) R.Lindell 21 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-M.Schneck, Holder-B.Moorman.
    HOU 0 BUF 6, Plays: 9 Yards: 63 Possession: 5:45.

    Buffalo Bills at 01:43
    R.Lindell kicks 70 yards from BUF 30 to HST 0. V.Morency to HST 19 for 19 yards (J.Stamer).
    Houston Texans at 01:38
    1-10-HOU19 (1:38) D.Davis left tackle to HST 22 for 3 yards (J.Posey; A.Schobel).
    2-7-HOU22 (1:02) D.Davis left tackle to HST 19 for -3 yards (T.McGee).
    3-10-HOU19 (:16) (Shotgun) D.Carr pass intended for A.Johnson INTERCEPTED by T.Vincent at HST 32. T.Vincent to HST 32 for no gain (A.Johnson). Receiver and coverage on right side. Penalty on HST-T.Wade, Offensive Holding, declined. Penalty on HST-C.Pitts, Ineligible Downfield Pass, declined.
    Buffalo Bills at 00:06
    1-10-HOU32 (:06) W.McGahee right tackle to HST 36 for -4 yards (P.Buchanon).
    PENALTY on HST-S.Payne, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at HST 32 - No Play.
     
  2. infantrycak

    infantrycak Mod. Staff Member

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    What a freakin' joke. Absolutely incredible that you want to blame the D for not giving the O an opportunity. Your boy Carr and the rest of the O had the same number of opportunites as the Bills O, two--they just squandered them with a 3 and out and a 2 and INT. Pretty darn obvious the playing time disparity wouldn't have been so great if the O had marched down the field like they were supposed to.

    By the way, did you watch this game?
     
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    When ever time of possesion is like 43-24 you have no chance of victory
     
  4. Ibar_Harry

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    Bye the way every minute of it.........................
     
  5. JfromthaTray

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    The defense was the only positive thing from the game. They didn't get a break. They held the bills to fg's until they were worn out, the O needs play better simple as that.
     
  6. Defense was ok in the 2nd half and great in the redzone, but to say the defense is good is crazy. P Buc alone was the cause for some huge yardage. And fact is, Carr did drive this team down to score and we gave it right back. There is not a sole on this team that can't take the blame, it was a total team implosion. Carr threw interceptions, every reciever missed a crucial ball, the TE couldn't block or catch, the oline couldn't hold a pocket and couldn't drive off the ball to open lanes, the RB couldn't see a whole, the FB couldn't blow through or pick up a blitz, the dlineman couldn't push up front, the linebackers were too busy playing read and react, the cornerbacks were used in one on one coverage, the safeties got torched. The coaches were outcoached and were not prepared for the blitzes, the OC didn't call enough quick routes, the OC didn't call enough blitz packages, special teams were....well, not so special.
     
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    what was the margin on TOP the when the Texans went to Pittsburgh to play the Steelers?
     
  8. Ibar_Harry

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    Unfortunately its no joke because that was the game plan of the Bills. They wanted and kept the Texans offensively off of the field. They also figured out the contain on Palmer's so called tweeking of the offense. When you can't see the obvious then there's nothing one can say except here's what's happening and watch for it week after week. I will still say the one hope we have is if we can Mathis in the offense. He made a difference on special teams and he looks to have the same potentail for the offense. We need some one else other than AJ as a receiver. If you watched the int's the receiver never came back to the ball in most instances. This team is very poorly coached from a fundementals point of view. Remember Payne jumps off side 3 times in the 1st half and Greenwood jumped off 1 time along with a number of other defensive penalties which prolonged the Bills drives in the 1st half. By that time we were in a hole big time with no assemblance of play calling. Our OC never counters the other teams defense. Did Carr play well, I would say no, but he tried his best. When you have no supporting cast there is nothing you can do. AJ, DD and Carr can not do it by themselves. Bradford can't catch a ball if his life depended on it and I still don't think Gaffny is 100 % nor does he know the offense because of his lack of preseason play. We got rid of many of our young WR's for the sake of other positions. Hollings being one of them. We really do have a problem, because even the special teams play broke down. Mathis was again our hope there and Buchannon looked average at best. Morancy was simply a body.
     


  9. cuppacoffee

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    The sky IS falling

    Correction...the sky has fallen..right on Texan fans hopes.
     
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    I agree with IBAR_Harry's assessment of the game.
     
  11. ledzeppelin229

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    That game was a "Welcome to the League" gift from Tommy Maddox (courtesy of Aaron Glenn). It was probably the flukiest game a person will see in their lifetime.

    The defense held its own to keep us in the game but I wouldn't say they played well. Buchanon was giving up a lot of medium yardage stuff on consecutive plays and the middle linebackers looked lost. Peek and Babin were rarely getting to the QB unless it was on a designed screen. The D did a good job stopping the run but the DL wasn't really getting any push, and made it pretty easy for Losman to get the ball out. DL also weren't tying up multiple blockers so the LBs couldn't get anything done.
     
  12. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    I feel it's my responsibility to point out that Vinny and I have gone over that game in great detail and determined that it's impossible to say for certain whether or not it was in fact a "fluke". (I still say it was a fluke)

    In fact if he catches you using the word "fluke" in relation to that game then there could be serious ramifications for you, this board, Texans fans everywhere, and the future career of Diet Pepsi Machine. ;)

    If Tommy Maddox had Diet Pepsi Machine blocking for him that day the Texans would have lost by at least two touchdowns.
     
  13. TexRocStros

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    My first post, Truley is correct. This was not just the coaching, the ol, or Carr. It was all. Noboday was prepared to play. From the Mgmt. to the waterboy. This was pityful!!!!!!!!!!! :brickwall, this happened last year preseason and this 1St game. I don't even think that this can be fixed. Here comes the oilers. :crying:
     
  14. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    And when something like this happens you start with the people who's job it is to make sure the team is prepared to play.
     
  15. Double Barrel

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    man, without a doubt. An NFL record like that - lowest offensive production in a winning effort - doesn't come along too often.

    I...uhhh...don't really want to remind the Steelers of that one, either....nope, not this week. :cool:
     
  16. texan's blue

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    :texflag: Let's not throw our boys to the wolves yet. We have a lot of talent on this team. We just need some coaching, any coaching would do at this point. That's been obvious since day 1. So let's pull together as fans, support our team and crucify the coaches. :challenge
     
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    what if i said we were in a funk? :hmmm:
     
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    And I'm sure he "filed" it properly. One question though; did you really sign it "IbarHarry?"
     
  19. Ibar_Harry

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    Yes, I did......
     
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    Hey now its a little early to be blameing the waterboy :jk:
     

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