My Purposed Starting O Line

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  1. gary

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    Ok, here it is for me.
    C Myers
    RT Winston
    LT Brown
    RG Caldwell
    LG Brisel

    What do you all think? It's not too bad. Is it? I like it. GO TEXANS
     
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    I like it, but my eyes are saying Brown, Studdard, Meyers, Caldwell Winston. Brisiel is already having issues with the foot, and I just do not see him holding up over the whole season. But he has shown a new quickness for him.

    As much as I do not want to admit it Studdard has looked improved to me. He has gotten better at dropping his anchor on the bull rush. He is still having trouble with Mitchell but so are the other guys.

    Caldwell appears to have the RG position lock up. And there is no depth at tackle so Brown and Winston are safe.

    Myers is not as bad as the people here think. Today he was 15 yards downfield blocking Pollard on a inside run, it's what started the fight. Plus he is looking better at OC. So far Wade Smith has looked like a backup, just like I thought he would when they signed him.
     
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    It's ashame about Brisel because he's good IMO.
     
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    I like LT Brown --RG Caldwell/Wade--C Caldwell/Wade---LG briesel or Studdard--RT Winston
     
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    I seem to recall that this may be old news, but last week on the radio I caught a few minutes of John McClain. He mentioned that Kubiak had made the comment that the light bulb seemed to have come on over Caldwell's head. So far, this past off season, he had taken his game to the next level. Now he had to show the same improvement during contact.
     
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    I would not be against this.
     
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    http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/2010/08/competition_fierce_at_several.html

    It seems like McClain believes Caldwell has RG firmly locked up. Everyone seems pretty sure about the tackles, so that really only leaves LG and C. I really think Meyers is hated on just for the sake of hating on the guy. He did have a rough season last year, but he was missing guys on both sides of him leaving him to do all the dirty work inside, and he just isn't built for that. Having a constant line I think will make him back to a decent center. I think the real fight will be between Brisiel and Studdard at LG.
     
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    I'm going to throw this out their as well with backups listed...

    LT: Duane Brown / Rashad Butler

    LG: Kasey Studdard / Wade Smith

    C: Antoine Caldwell / Chris White

    RG: Mike Brisiel / Shelley Smith

    RT: Eric Winston / Adam Stenavich
     


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    That looks good, except for Left Guard.

    At LG, I expect Wade Smith to eventually find his way to the top of the chart, due to the salary they are paying him, and also his ability. If Smith does not play at about the same level as Brisiel and Studdard, then I would expect Kasey Studdard to get the nod.

    But given the payroll considerations, Studdard beating our Smith will be a bit of an eyebrow-raiser. If that happens, that will be fine with me. But if Brisiel beats out both Smith and Studdard, especially considering his lingering injury issues, I will be quite surprised.
     
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    If Myers and Studdard are still top 5 OL on the team, go for it. If not, just pretend like they are.
     
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    We shall see how things shake up.
     
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    I wonder why they won't put Studdard at RG, next to Winston. I'm thinking Studdard is the strongest of the group, & I think he does a fine job run blocking. If he were next to Winston, we would be able to run right, all day long.
     
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    Caldwell is actually stronger, I think. He certainly has more junk in the trunk and a stronger base. It's clear that they are convicted to leave him at RG and have the other 4 guys (Wade Smith, Myers, Brisiel, C.White) compete for the other two spots. Studdard is very limited athletically. If he's starting, I view it as patchwork. He's fine as depth but not the guy you want to win the job, IMO.

    from http://www.texansbullblog.com :
    Training Camp Position Battles, Part III

    Interior Offensive Linemen:

    Chris Myers is the new Petey Faggins. But the question is, does he deserve to be? Chris struggled against large space-eating DTs and there is the very unflattering video of Kris Jenkins ragdolling him. But in 2009, he was rarely if ever out of position. Mentally, it has been mentioned that he seems to have a very solid grasp on the line calls and that alone could be enough for him to retain his job. At the same time, his physical limitations are his downfall and. Kubiak acknowledged this off-season that the interior oline was a priority that would be addressed. And, Rick Smith, in the weakest year of free agency in the salary cap era, successfully acquired one of the best available interior linemen: Wade Smith. Smith is a capable OT but has proven more valuable at Center and particularly at guard. He is highly athletic and has a special ability to absolutely maul LBs on the second level. It is challenging attempting to break down the battles because there are 6 or 7 guys that could end up at any of the three positions. I’m not sure the coaches even know who’ll end up where. This year’s 6th round pick, Shelly Smith, was a four year starter at Colorado State (which, if you follow the Texans, you know that gives him an edge: Brisiel, D.Anderson, Nading, Dressen). He can play center and guard and has good feet and athleticism. Chris White, in my opinion, is most likely going to get cut. However, he has experience, and can also play center and guard. Last year’s 3rd round pick, Antoine Caldwell, started at center for three years at Alabama. However, he platooned at RG for the Texans last season and they seem intent to keep him there. He is the player most assured, out of this group, of retaining a starting job. However, Mike Brisiel has returned to practice after missing most of last season with a lisfranc injury to his foot. He is not 100%, but if he can manage the pain, he can compete for his old job at RG. Oh, and by the way, he was spotted working at center during this year’s OTAs and also reportedly took some reps with the 1st team in Friday’s practices. Chris Myers likely retains his job at center. LG then becomes a race between Studdard and Wade Smith, with some possible competition from Shelly Smith. There are about 6 or 7 combinations for the season-openner that are plausible.

    All the more reason training camp is going to be a blast! We’ll have some answers for you by tomorrow.

    Week one prediction: LG)Wade Smith C) Chris Meyers RG) Antoine Caldwell Backups: Mike Brisiel, Kasey Studdard, Shelly Smith

    http://www.texansbullblog.com/training-camp-yippee-cont-part-3/news/
     
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    Getting downfield and playing in space hasn't been the problem with Myers. It's when the field shortens up that troubles me. He's weak at the point of attack and can't hold his ground in short yardage situations.

    Really I'd be interested to see what he looks like moved over to guard and have Caldwell play center.

    Studdard has never been the most athletic guard, difference with him and the other linemen is he's pretty strong and isn't afraid to throw his body around.

    I'm really disappointed on hearing Smith not impressing so far. I had high hopes he could come in and lock down LG or C.
     
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    I still think overall the O line will just be better than last season.
     
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    Admittedly, I've been unable to gather enough evidence to prove Wade has beaten Myers out, yet. But this would be how the Oline would look to me today.

    LT - D Brown
    LG - M Brisiel
    C - C Myers
    RG - A Caldwell
    RT - E Winston

    And this is what I'd like it to look like at the conclusion of pre-season.

    LT - D Brown
    LG - M Brisiel
    C - W Smith
    RG - A Caldwell
    RT - E Winston
     
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    Wade is the only difference from mine.
     
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    Yessir, great minds think alike. :winky:

    Gary, were you there yesterday? I looked where you normally are and you weren't there.

    Anywho, if you get the chance, watch W. Smith when he's with the 1's this Saturday. I'm going to make it a point to since I didn't get a chance yesterday.
     
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    I got there late and did not watch a lot of practice but I started out behing the fence in front of the water tent right next to the bleachers. Then I moved to the track between field one and two. Are you going to be there Thursday night or Saturday morning? Maybe I'll see you then.
     
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    The wife and I will be there Saturday morning. I promised myself I wouldn't go to Thursday nights any more. It's way too crowded just to watch them run around in shorts and ball caps. We'll look for y'all Saturday morning
     

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