My NFL BCS Stupid Little Rankings Thing

Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by kastofsna, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. kastofsna

    kastofsna Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7,438
    Likes Received:
    245
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    i haven't done this in a while, and i'm bored at work, so i threw together a rankings for the NFL, BCS-style, with lots of stats and spreadsheet action.

    the factors that go into the rankings are the play on the field and strength of schedule. the actual record of the teams are completely left out, just so i could see how accurate the rankings were. again, wins and losses play NO part in this.

    1 - NY Giants: 89.52
    2 - Baltimore: 86.62
    3 - Philadelphia: 83.78
    4 - Tennessee: 82.32
    5 - Pittsburgh: 79.78
    6 - Arizona: 71.36
    7 - New Orleans: 62.73
    8 - Tampa Bay: 57.54
    9 - Dallas: 55.48
    10 - Washington: 49.66
    11 - Miami: 47.65
    12 - New England: 36.11
    13 - Minnesota: 34.91
    14 - Carolina: 28.75
    15 - Houston: 27.43
    16 - Atlanta: 25.91
    17 - Indianapolis: 16.70
    18 - NY Jets: 15.96
    19 - Denver: 9.82
    20 - Green Bay: 9.62
    21 - Jacksonville: -5.70
    22 - Chicago: -7.24
    23 - Buffalo: -8.92
    24 - San Diego: -11.90
    25 - San Francisco: -40.77
    26 - Cleveland: -86.16
    27 - Kansas City: -97.36
    28 - Oakland: -105.33
    29 - Seattle: -132.18
    30 - Cincinnati: -138.23
    31 - St. Louis: -139.06
    32 - Detroit: -147.66

    looks pretty good to me. a few oddities, but that's expected.

    for the record, the actual stats that factor into the game stats are offensive and defensive yardage divided by the plays from scrimmage, points scored and allowed, and turnovers. pretty simple.
     
  2. Carr Bombed

    Carr Bombed Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    14,218
    Likes Received:
    1,053
    Location:
    Wherever the US govt. sends me
    Didnt the Giants just lose to the Eagles?
     
  3. kastofsna

    kastofsna Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7,438
    Likes Received:
    245
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    yup they sure did. they also beat them earlier in the season
     
  4. Carr Bombed

    Carr Bombed Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2004
    Messages:
    14,218
    Likes Received:
    1,053
    Location:
    Wherever the US govt. sends me
    I remember a certain team that beat another certain team earlier in the season and they still got passed up. :) Remember the BCS is all about the here and now. j/k
     
  5. kastofsna

    kastofsna Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7,438
    Likes Received:
    245
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    well maybe if they played twice in a season in college it'd be different. but on paper, the Giants and Eagles split the season series. besides, these rankings don't actually include wins or losses, so there's no tiebreakers or anything, just straight up performance
     
  6. Hookem Horns

    Hookem Horns That Server Guy Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,689
    Likes Received:
    1,113
    Baltimore blew out the Eagles, the Eagles beat the Giants late in the season. How is Baltimore below the Giants? Sure I know the Giants beat Baltimore head to head however that was several weeks ago and it shouldn't matter now. You have to look at how the Ravens destroyed the Eagles and earned style points.

    If you are trying to duplicate the BCS you are not doing a good job of it.
     
  7. TexanSam

    TexanSam Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2005
    Messages:
    17,071
    Likes Received:
    713
    Sure he is. The BCS always has some screwed up rankings. It always has teams left out that are deserving. So do these rankings. IMO, it's spot on using that criteria.
     
  8. bah007

    bah007 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2006
    Messages:
    9,574
    Likes Received:
    546
    Location:
    Spring, TX
    It really is embarassing to see some of my fellow UT fans still crying about this. It happened. We can't do anything about it but beat the tar out of Ohio St and prove why we should have been there.

    If we don't beat Ohio St, all this whining would have been for nothing.
     


  9. kastofsna

    kastofsna Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7,438
    Likes Received:
    245
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    Longhorn fans only like it when it goes in their favor. like when Mama Mack Brown whines for a week to get voters to drop Cal 4 or 5 spots in the polls so he can go to a BCS game
     
  10. Texan_Bill

    Texan_Bill Subscribed Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2003
    Messages:
    48,673
    Likes Received:
    2,088
    Location:
    Houston. Mediocrity Lives Here!!
    Y'all will beat OSU. Question is: by how much? :thisbig:
     
  11. bah007

    bah007 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2006
    Messages:
    9,574
    Likes Received:
    546
    Location:
    Spring, TX
    Fixed that for you.

    I don't remember Mack whining for the Rose Bowl. I remember him asking people to move us up. They did. We proved we belonged there. Cal proved why they didn't.
     
  12. Hookem Horns

    Hookem Horns That Server Guy Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,689
    Likes Received:
    1,113
    What are you embarrassed about? How is that analogy off? It's the same exact thing. Believe me I was whining after 2005 believe it or not. Texas was no real champion in 2005, how could they be? They only beat one team that didn't earn anything either. The system is a complete joke whether it works in UT's favor or not. There is no true champion in college football and that has always been what I have been whining about for years.
     
    bah007 likes this.
  13. Texan_Bill

    Texan_Bill Subscribed Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2003
    Messages:
    48,673
    Likes Received:
    2,088
    Location:
    Houston. Mediocrity Lives Here!!
    Q: What college coach doesn't politic?
     
  14. Hookem Horns

    Hookem Horns That Server Guy Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,689
    Likes Received:
    1,113
    I don't know about that. If you are a player how do you get up for an exhibition game? If they beat OSU they are not advancing anywhere. Sure they might be motivated to prove people wrong however even if they beat OSU by 40 points it doesn't prove anything except they are better than the #10 team in the country. Actually it might not even prove that in some people's minds.
     
  15. bah007

    bah007 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2006
    Messages:
    9,574
    Likes Received:
    546
    Location:
    Spring, TX
    Mack might be able to convince the kids that a big victory could earn them an AP national title.

    That would give them something to play for, especially seniors like Orakpo, Miller, Cosby, etc...
     
  16. kastofsna

    kastofsna Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7,438
    Likes Received:
    245
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    the point is whining about the system only when it goes against you is silly.
    you can call it what you want

    and those are two totally different situations. Cal was coasting to a BCS game, then they get slighted by a ridiculous sytem and coach and stupid voters, so suddenly their interest in the Holiday Bowl drops a bit. happens every year across the bowl landscape. that's why i've never put much interest in chest-bumping in non-BCS bowls

    besides, the reason Cal didn't go to a BCS game wasn't because they didn't deserve to go, and that Texas deserved it more. and you know that
     
  17. Hookem Horns

    Hookem Horns That Server Guy Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,689
    Likes Received:
    1,113
    The whole frustrating part from a fan's perspective is whining, politicing, and running up scores (unsportsmanship) is part of the "game". Mack obviously did what he had to do to get his team where it needed to go, that is his job unfortunately. Is it right? No, but it's not his fault it is the fault of the morons that won't put in a legitimate playoff system.
     
  18. kastofsna

    kastofsna Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7,438
    Likes Received:
    245
    Location:
    Tampa, FL
    no, i'd say begging for votes is pretty unsportsmanlike
     
  19. bah007

    bah007 Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2006
    Messages:
    9,574
    Likes Received:
    546
    Location:
    Spring, TX
    I would rather my coach beg for extra votes and look like a sissy than run up the score ruthlessly and look like an asshole.
     
  20. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2004
    Messages:
    12,448
    Likes Received:
    444
    Location:
    Houston, 77008
    Neg. Rep. (kidding)
     

Share This Page