McNair PLEASE retract your statement about replacement refs

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by gafftop, Aug 23, 2012.

  1. gafftop

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    C'mon Bob I know you are taking the company line but I sure don't hear alot of the other owners making comments " no difference to me between replacement and real refs"

    Did the other owners nominate you to be the spokesman? Did they tell you it would be a good idea to say that? It isn't a good idea. Don't trust them.

    Anybody old enough to remember Renfro in the endzone for the Oilers and how big an effect the call made by the ref changed the game. We might have been waiting for our 2nd Super Bowl now if that call had gone the other way. We just think we have been getting a bad deal from the refs.

    The real Refs are coming back.
    The real Refs are human.
    The real Refs have memories.
    Why would you piss them off with the comment you made????

    I think we may feel the payback from that comment somtime/s during the season.

    If I were you I would backtrack and say " What I meant to say is ....."
    Whatever you need to say to get the real refs on YOUR/Texans side.

    Trust me we want them on our side not against us.

    Just my opinion.
     
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  2. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    While I think I understand McNair's motivation behind the statement, it was not a wise one. The replacements suck, and when the real guys come back, it will not help the Texans' cause to have McNair's statement on record. It may not hurt, but it wont help.
     
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  3. texanhead08

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    Its just collective bargaining the league has been told not to rip these replacement refs. Its called negotiations.
     
  4. Lucky

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    Then Bob should let Roger handle the negotiations and shut up. Flat out dumb.
     
  5. Corrosion

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    Bob was better off with a "no comment".

    Kinda like me posting drunk .... Im better off woth "no post."
     
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    Cheese and rice people , this isn't the first time I've seen an ox in the ditch!! :kitten:
     
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    Wait, what?? You're so superhuman that you've never said anything that
    BTW, didn't come out completely how you meant it??

    In addition, Bob McNair is a business owner. Whether you agree or disagree with his comments, it's his business. Not yours, not mine!! You and I have the choice to agree or disagree, be a fan or not be a fan... That decision is on you!

    *EDIT*

    Maybe Gafftop, I misunderstood your point (AND there's a huge that could be the case, so don't get too indignent).
     


  9. Lucky

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    Yes, but I'm his customer. And I have the right to complain when his comments could affect the product I pay for. If McNair's the sharp businessman he's purported to be, he'd zip it.
     
  10. HJam72

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    I post better when I'm drunk. :tomato:
     
  11. CloakNNNdagger

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    Somehow, I get real sceeeeered when Bob agrees with Jeruh.:scare:
     
  12. SheTexan

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    Until they do, you don't have a right to complain!!! JMO! If you don't like the OWNER of the product, don't buy it! Remember Chick-fil-A? Liz Claybourn? JC Penny? ETC? Some folks don't like what the owners had to say so they quit buying the product. Not trying to argue, just saying it's HIS multibillion buck franchise and he can say what he wants.
     
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    They're in agreement more often than not, aren't they? :laughjump:
     
  14. TexansFanatic

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    I'm old enough to remember that game and while I appreciate your sense of injustice about that particular play, the truth is that the Steelers manhandled the Oilers that day. They held Earl to 15 yards on 17 carries. That's not a typo. Earl Campbell. 15 yards for the day. 1.13 yards per carry.

    The Steelers had 22 first downs to Houston's 11. The Oilers had 3 turnovers to the Steelers 2. The Oilers had 227 total yards to the Steelers 358.

    Yes, Renfro caught a touchdown that would have tied the game in the third quarter if it had been properly counted, but the Steelers deserved to win that game. I have no doubt they would have won that game even if Renfro's catch had counted.

    Renfro's Touchdown
     
  15. rmartin65

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    Then dont complain about Winston and Big B getting released.
     
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    Considering the officials have already publicly come out and said that they have long memories and that the replacement refs will never be forgiven, I'm not sure I'd twist the tail of those whose judgments could make/break my football team.
     
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    Meh, ask any owner what they think of replacement refs and the answer will be the same. What else should we expect them to say when it's NFL (owners) vs refs

    Are they right? Heck no, the refs suck. It's like believing anything that was said during the lockout last season. All BS
     
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    I heard the interview McNair did on tv about the refs and I didn't hear him say that. Matter of fact his line of thought seemed to be about what I felt about the situation.

    He said that the Regular refs were obviously better, but he felt like the replacements were doing ok considering the circumstances and he felt like the longer they ref'd NFL games the better they'd get.

    He felt like the replacements were being over analyzed in SOME cases even when they made mistakes that the reg refs make at times.

    Basically he
    1) made it clear reg refs were better
    2) thought the replacements could/should improve with more experience
    3) thought they were criticized too harshly at times
     
  19. Double Barrel

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    Then I guess it's in our best interests as Texans fans at this point to hope that the NFL keeps the regular officials locked out and we benefit from the recent memories of the scab refs in regular season games.

    Maybe Bob knows something we don't, like the NFL might be willing to 'sacrifice' the 2012 season in order to get what they ultimately want: full time job officials and accountability among officials without the union breaking their balls about it.
     
  20. disaacks3

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    I'm not losing sleep over this, but every little bit helps. Why taunt the lion if that cage might come open?

    I wonder about the bolded as well. Considering the harebrained things coming out (suggestions of one official on the field and the rest handled in the booth comes to mind), I worry that the NFL cares less about the games than the outcome of their negotiation.
     

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