Mario Williams

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  1. mike230765

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    i was wondering what peoples thought were about trading down and picking up mario williams?
     
  2. cadahnic

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    Mike I am simply estatic about the idea of it. Let me give you some info.
    Mario Williams DE N.C. State Jr.
    6-7 290 Est.40 4.65 coming out of Phoneix right now.
    Bench Press 31*225
    Have not gotten the rest of his stuff give me some time though.
    Junior year. 14 1/2 sacks

    The guy is a freak, it is rare that players of this size come out with this kind of athleticism. He is my trade down pick right now and if he brings it at the combine I would even take him number 1. Yeah I doubt that would happen I would find a trade down partner even if it meant taking less in order to get him. Or I do the draft and trade like SD and NYG did.
     
  3. SportsJunkie

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    He sounds like another Julius Peppers.
     
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    agreed. i wouldn't mind this too much.
     
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    From what I hear, Id LOVE to have him on the Defense, immediate upgrade at rushing the passer....
     
  6. F-minus67

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    Is he as athletic as Peppers, I mean Peppers did play basketball in college.
     
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    Great guy... hes amazing. I dont doubt that he would be an amazing pass rusher, but id rather the Big LT of we trade down.
     
  8. Mightymike

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    this guy is a no brainer would have more impact than dbrick
     


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    Why is that a given? A great season for a DE is about 16, close to the league lead. For a rookie with his skills we can expect around 10, maybe a little more if he stays healthy. Thats means about .7 sacks per game. If we can get someone who can not only solidify the LT position but also allow Pitts to go back to LG, that would solidify 40% of the line, without any FA or other draft picks. I think both DE and O-line are huge needs on this team, slightly ahead of MLB, but if its a toss up between D'Brick and Mario right now, all things considered (such as our new O minded coaches) I would pick D'Brick.
     
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    People think that because Offensive Lineman dont score or make tackles that they dont make a bg impact. Say for instance we draft Williams, he is going to start over say... Babin at LDE. Babin may get lets say at worst 3 sacks next season...Williams gets at best 10 sacks, so lets say at best we get an extra 7 sacks because Williams starts for Babin.

    Now on the other hadn we draft Ferguson. That allows us to move Pitts to where ever... helps to solidify o-line and gives us great depth...as bad as our o-line has been laying that alone may save Carr 15-20 sacks, just by taking him and allowing Pitts to go back to his natural position.
     
  11. Mightymike

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    mario makes the whole defense better, secondary doesn't have to cover for as long.
    mario is better in my opinion and brick is better in yours.
    i also think that the draft is much deeper w/ olineman so that if u draft mario u won't downgrade much from brick
     
  12. Mightymike

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    u don't judge an end's impact on how many sacks he makes
    u judge it on how he makes the rest of the defense better, along with sacks, tackles for loss etc.

    there's no stat that gives a d-end props for flushing a qb out the pocket and forcing a interception

    i just feel like he will have more impact than brick
    and it's not like d-end's score all the time either.
     
  13. Mightymike

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    in now way shape or form did i say that brick wouldn't have a big impact, i said mario would have more
     
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    No ones trying to attack you... stop being so defensive. I was just giving a reason why I feel Ferguson cold make just as much of an impact if not more.

    You say Williams makes D better

    Ferguson makes O better

    Secondary doenst have to cover as long

    Carr isnt on his back as much

    Oh and this draft isnt too shabby at DE either with Williams, Hali, Kiawanuka, Manny Lawson, Dummerville, Tapp, Wimbley

    Both Williams and Ferguson are head and shoulders above the compition though... dont get so offended if someone responds to your post, this is a message board.:ok:
     
  15. Mightymike

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    aight, thanx fo advice
    im not tryin to be like dat i just feel strong about my opinion u know
     
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    Add in Ray Edwards from Purdue. Great physical guy, left early due to coaching or lack there of.
     
  17. Mightymike

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    otha than d'brick
    Marcus McNeill, Eric Winston, Winston Justice, Jon Scott, Max Jean-Gilles, Davin Joseph, Fred Matua, Duece Lutui, Nick Mangold, Greg Eslinger
    all go in top 2-3 rounds
    but brick is much betta than all of these guys though,
     
  18. MorKnolle

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    Mario would be a great addition to the defense. He is as big as Peppers, but not quite as athletic, but still it looks like he should be a freak. I'm still not that big of a fan of D'Brick, we definitely need to address our OLine with at least two of our higher picks, but I still prefer Eric Winston to D'Brick, and he could be available at #33, and if not after trading down we'll have some extra picks in there we can package together and trade back up to grab Winston. Before his injury in 2004, he was regarded as the best OLineman in college football, right there with Robert Gallery while being two years younger. His knee injury has slowed him down some, but I think he will regain his previous athleticism, he's already probably the second most athletic OLineman in the draft behind Ferguson, and he's stronger and a better run blocker so he's more versatile that Ferguson. Mario is far and away the best DE in the draft, so my personal preference would be to trade down and draft him at #4/5 and then get Eric Winston for our OT, either at #33 or trade back up a little to get him.
     
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    He is definately a freak and can see another Julius Peppers coming out of him, but then at the same time, I don't want to judge a player until he has officially proven himself at the nfl level.
     
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    Williams will be a monster, and one we'll look back and wish we'd drafted him. I've always hoped we'd eventually have a player like that on our line, but [unfortunately] this year's draft is loaded with talent. Some of it we need more than others, and our o-line has to be our no. 1 priority, IMO. It'll be a draft of tough choices, but our no. 1 will definitely be talented. I'd cheer if it was Mario, though.
     

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