LZ: Texans training camp previews

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  1. Playoffs

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    TEXANS TRAINING CAMP PREVIEW: DEFENSE
    Lance Zierlein, TSV


     
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    TEXANS TRAINING CAMP PREVIEW: OFFENSE

     
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    A simple matter of Last Man "Standing."
     
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    Perhaps it's my suspicious nature but I think putting Arian on the preseason PUP is just Kubiak giving Tate his chance to show he's back to his near-1000 yard form and give the other guys a chance to grab a choke hold on that third spot. That spot paid off in a nice way for Justin Forsett as he's now the #2 RB for the Jags. This is Tate's contract year so he needs to put some "good tape" out there if he wants to get paid with a new contract
    ...or if Rick Smith wants to turn him into draft picks via trade.
     
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    Was Lance at opening day of training camp?
     
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    IMO, Newton was better than Ryan Harris last season and if healthy should be this season. I like Harris and he should be better and healthier but everything being said from team is Newton and Williams both will be ready to go game 1.
     
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    Brice McCain as nickel CB?

    Hopefully we don't have to prepare our anuses. That guy sucks.
     
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    You must be talking about the pre-Vance Joseph, Wade Phillips guy.

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    Clearly the Texans using a third-round pic on an OT in this past Draft in April and then in addition a sixth rounder on another OT means they don't see Newt or anybody else on the current roster as the long-term answer at RT.
     
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    Or they don't see the point in keeping Butler or Caldwell (or Chris White (if you include Ben Jones)) for depth.

    Myers was a 6th round pick back in the day as well, but he's managed to keep his job regardless how many centers we draft in the 3rd or 4th.
     
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    You trust the Texans org/medical staff to speak honestly about any injury situation? LOL
     
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    At the very least, Kubiak talks like his plans include Newton as the starter, Williams as the "third" tackle, & no real place for Harris. However, he stated Harris appears healthier than he's ever seen him & he likes the work he's putting in. They also talked about Harris being able to play inside as well as swing tackle... Harris may earn himself a spot on the team, forcing Kubiak to rethink his plans.

    There's also been one poster.... 76Texan, who opined that he believed Harris to have been the better player last season, between Harris & Newton. While that might have been the case, I think Newton is the superior athlete with a higher upside... he should be the future at RT if his knee doesn't hold him back.

    So, like Rey says, one way or the other, we're going to have competent play at RT. Either a healthier Harris, or a healthier Newton.
     
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    Actually that link is for an article in May of 2012 following McClain's great 2011 season. In 2012 he sucked as even shown on that same site. In fact, his numbers are worse than Brandon Harris last year for as much as folks complain about Harris. The 2012 season was not a strong one for us out of the nickle back position to say the least.

    Hopefully McClain has a trend going for next year as he had a poor 2010, great 2011, poor 2012....so could we get a great 2012? Sure as hell hope so.
     
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    You are probably right.

    RB is maybe the hardest position on your body...Arian has gotten a lot of touches the past few years...He's your big money back...

    I'm fine if Kubiak is doing like you say he is.
     
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    Harris had a better year only because Newton was hurt; that's what my opinion was.
     
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    TEXANS TUESDAY MORNING CAMP
    By Lance Zierlein
    July 30, 2013


    read more: http://www.thesidelineview.com/columns/nfl/texans-tuesday-morning-camp
     
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    I'm liking what I'm hearing about Hopkins.

    And yes, that's the right name this time. LOL
     
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    Let's consider everything:

    "In 2010, McCain seemed to have lost his confidence and was inactive over the last few weeks. The Texans used a second-round draft choice on Brandon Harris. With a new coach (Vance Joseph) and a new system, McCain played exceptionally well in 2011 as the slot corner.In 2010, McCain seemed to have lost his confidence and was inactive over the last few weeks. The Texans used a second-round draft choice on Brandon Harris. With a new coach (Vance Joseph) and a new system, McCain played exceptionally well in 2011 as the slot corner."
    http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexan...ured-mccain-starts-opposite-joseph-at-corner/


    2012: McCain broke foot in week 11 and missed rest of season. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/03/brice-mccain-is-latest-injured-texans-defender/


    2013: "Texans re-signed CB Brice McCain to a three-year contract.McCain was seeking $3.5-$5 million per season, but almost certainly settled for less in the frigid cornerback market. The Texans' slot corner each of the past three seasons, McCain notched 24 tackles and a pick in 2012. He played just 461 snaps, however, and graded out near the bottom of Pro Football Focus' CB ratings. That was likely due in part to the fact that he spent some time on the outside as Johnathan Joseph fought through injury." Mar 19 - 11:08 PM
    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5402/brice-mccain
     
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    Not sure what you wish to illustrate especially with the bolded text. Him playing 461 snaps doesn't erase that he played poorly for those snaps. And in comparison he played 482 snaps in all of 2011 so a difference of 21 so the whole 'just' they put in that statement is a bit of a reach and seeking excuses for poor play. He simply didn't play good in 2012 and hopefully he bounces back. It is what it is.

    And they stretched on him playing outside too. He had 20 plays outside against the Titans where he got hurt. Before then the team utilized Alan Ball in replace of Joseph, not McCain.
     
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    HOUSTON TEXANS' PRACTICE NOTES FOR WEDNESDAY MORNING
    By Lance Zierlein
    July 31, 2013


     

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