Luck, Mahomes, or Watson

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  1. Chris

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    If you are a NFL GM and you were to start a franchise right now who would take as your QB as your 1st RD pick?
     
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    I’d change the Coach first.
     
  3. TheKDog

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    Assuming they stay healthy?
     
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    The one to the left.
     
  5. Chris

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    of course
     
  6. beerlover

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    I’m more of a far right guy :shades:
     
  7. xtruroyaltyx

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    Mahomes.

    Injury history and arm talent would be the deciding factors for me.

    But I love all three. Think all of them are capable of leading teams to rings with the right pieces and coach.
     
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    The teams with good QB's would not leave them unprotected. Some have a dazzling 1st year and then settle back as fallible humans: Prescott, Watson, Mahomes(?)....
     
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    Luck just seems 'good' at best these days, so, meh.

    Had Mahomes ahead of Watson by a good margin prior to the draft, and Watson has done plenty to shrink that gap, but Patrick has only solidified what I liked about him coming out, and done so in spades.

    Wouldn't trade them straight up now, because Deshaun is simply 'ours' now and I'm completely confident he can hold up his end of the bargain to bring the big one home and the guy is nothing if not easy to root for, but if the idea is to get in a time machine and all that I still prefer Mahomes as the better young franchise qb.
     
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    That’s fair. You also must consider system fit. Mahomes seems better w/Reid’s offense, not saying Watson couldn’t either, maybe better? But we’ll never know, just hope O’Brian figures it out before it’s too late.
     
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    If there was an expansion team forming up, which Texans would you initially protect from piracy?
     
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    Can't they protect all but a few of the 53?
     
  13. Texecutioner

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    This is a passer's league and Mahomes is far and away better than the other two arm wise. He also hasn't thrown an INT so far, so at this point he looks like the most mistake free QB out of the three.
     
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    Trying to separate for scheme and personnel

    Mahomes has him on the arm strength...Mahomes arm strength is hard to comprehend. I saw vid of him casually launching the bar over 80 yds....

    Playmaking i'll call it a push -- Watson is a more dynamic runner and can still make big time throws....Mahomes can seed the ball anywhere downfield when he scrambles

    Mahomes has a cleaner injury history

    Watson has rare poise

    I'll give the edge to Wats because the poise is gonna carry him through some tough situations
     
  15. Texecutioner

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    So far Mahomes has shown a better tendency to get the W. Watson played great last season, but still was losing several games. Part of that is due to his TO's. Mahomes has thrown zero picks and has also had his defense put their team in tough situations, but his lack of TO's made a difference. Watson still hasn't even found his groove yet this season. We'll see what happens.
     
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    We're seeing different things then. A QB doesn't get the W the team gets the W. I was looking at the QB as prospects trying to divorce them form team related stuff as if both played for the Chiefs

    But you are right that Mahomes has thrown fewer INTs but then again when you've only been sacked 4 times? A QB is going to have an easier go of things.

    I think Watson is playing better then many people give him credit for....but the bar was set at such a ridiculously high level last year that his production this years 'seems' tepid by comparison even though it most certainly isn't.
     
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    Only because of Watson's injury history, I'm leaning Mahomes.

    Many people mentioned INTs as a difference between Watson and Mahomes. What's funny is that going into the season, the Chiefs had major concerns about Mahomes and turnovers. During training camp, he threw seven INTs. The regular season starts and he hasn't thrown one. I think he is due for

    Right now, Mahomes has the advantage because Andy Reid is a better offensive coach and teacher than O'Brien. However, similar to O'Brien, Reid has the bad habit of making questionable time management decisions at the most crucial times. That might be the equalizer in the playoffs.

    I don't recall a time where so many teams had so many young, promising QBs. I'm just glad we seem to have one on our favorite team.

    https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/08/01/concerning-patrick-mahomes-interceptions-training-camp/
     
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    If we're using time machines, I'd take a pre injury, pre bad coaching Andrew Luck. That dude understands the game & has all the tools in spades. Had he been with a strong offensive teaching coach, he'd have won a couple of Super Bowls by now.

    I think.

    But I've been watching Luck a lot longer than the other two & right now I'm not too sure what either of them are, or could be.
     
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    That would be my take exactly. You couldn't build a better QB - but coaching, injuries and a bad offensive line took their toll quickly. Sounds familiar.
     
  20. TheMatrix31

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    I don't think Luck fits in with this discussion.

    Perhaps a better fit for this discussion with be Garoppolo or Goff.
     
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