Looks Like We're going to Have a Ball with this Team.....

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    ........an Alan Ball, that is. He's a former Cowboys cornerback and safety. Got to be another Wade pick.

    Here's a contemporary piece from SPORT DFW I found about him.
     
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    Depth for camp.
     
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    If either of these guys makes the team do they affect our compensatory picks for next year since we signed them as FA? Also the Cowboys are desperate for CB's so I don't think they'd have let Ball go if he were any good. Camp bodies maybe?
     
  4. NastyNate

    NastyNate I go kerplunk

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    These guys won't make the final 53. At least, I surely hope not.
     
  5. TejasTom

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    The placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor.
    IIRC vet minimum guys don't count.
     
  6. ArlingtonTexan

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    At this point, I doubt guys like this are signing for anymore than veteran minimum, which does not influence the compensatory picks assuming I have the rules correct.

    Anyway, Ball was liked more when he was 3rd/4th CB & special teams guy a couple years back. He then was given the starting FS job and was overmatched. Did not return to previous form in 2011, imo.
     
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  8. CloakNNNdagger

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    Remember, he was always a CB in college. No experience as a safety. He was just getting getting his feet wet in his 1st real year chance at CB, just before Wade left. When Ryan took over, Ball was a young guy that was forced into an unnatural position. Ryan's supporting personel and scheme didn't help his performance any. It will be interesting how he does/progresses back at CB under Wade again.
     


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    I think he means to ask whether this will affect the compensation we'll receive for Mario Williams' departure. In which case, I don't believe so.
     
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  12. Nawzer

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    Ehh Wade probably doing these guys a favor by giving them a look. The last time we signed a Cowboy db (Jacques Reeves) it didn't work out so well.
     
  13. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    I think that is the key word there better coaching, a lot better scheme, and a lot better front 7
    Wade/Vance Joseph >>>>>>>Bush/Gibbs

    I am not saying Ball will make the team or anything, just my random thoughts
     
  14. Playoffs

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    ProFootballFocus ranked Ball

    166 out of 198 at CB in 2011
    87 out of 186 in Coverage in 2011
    Does appear to have been an efficient tackler in 2011, fwiw

    178 out 185 at Safety in 2010
     
  15. Lucky

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    Check the Texans depth chart at CB and RB. I think Ball and Forsett make this team easily.
     
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    I think Forsett makes the team.

    I don't think Ball makes the team.
     
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    Cheap, veteran, versatile secondary swingman. To me this signing means keo and t williams dont make the team.
     
  18. steelbtexan

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    Ball is meant to be this yrs Allen.

    Remains to be seen if he can live up to Allens level of play.

    I'm really high on Williams and especially Carmicheal. So I doubt Ball makes the team.
     
  19. Lucky

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    Fans tend to have an overinflated view of their young prospects. Williams and Carmichael have a combined NFL experience of 1 game. It may or may not be Alan Ball, but Wade will find a vet to play behind (or share the position with) Kareem Jackson.
     
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    Reeves was a serviceable-good nickle guy who the FO gave starter money because of necessity. Ball was signed to (presumably) the league minimum and has to earn his spot among Harris, Carmichael, and McManis. I like this situation more.

    What's sticking out to me about this deal is that Wade has now signed two of his old Dallas cronies since arriving in Houston and we've all seen/heard/read how highly he thinks of Bradie James so I'm guessing he saw something worthwhile in Ball. I may be wrong and he might just be a camp body but if I had to place a wager on the final 53, I'd have Ball penciled in.
     

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