LOL QB Scenario

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  1. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

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    They were talking about this on 610. TC in the summer:

    David Carr
    Jake Plummer
    Sage Rosenfels


    I know the FO NEVER listens to the fans about draft picks/signings (regardless of who you wanted, Houston FANS typically wanted Bush or Vince), but FOR ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY, don't let this happen.
     
  2. TexanFanInCC

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    jake plummer makes sense, but kevin kolb would be a fan favorite!
     
  3. Yankee_In_TX

    Yankee_In_TX Dance Lindsay!

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    Plummer is horrible...!!!

    I won't start a QB draft debate in this thread, but I would cry if these were our 3 QB's come summer.
     
  4. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    My answer would be to trade David Carr for anything you can get for him at this point. If someone offers you a 5 and a ham sandwich you grab that ham sandwich and run with it. You just made out like a bandit and that's with or without some mayo and a slice of cheese. That's even if the bread is kind of hard.

    Then you go ahead and see if Jake Plummer is interested in coming here to play for a season or two. You do not overpay this man to come play here. You appeal to his desire to get his career back on track and use the "you get to play for Kubiak again" card. You keep Sage as his backup or if Rosenfels can beat him out of the job then so be it.

    Then you take Kolb in the third if you can get him there. If necessary you use a 2 but our 2 is going to so high I think that's early for Kolb. Once we get closer to the draft we'll have a better idea what he's going for. Kolb is used here as an example and not a "I must draft him no matter what" case. Other options are fine. Regardless of which young QB we pick he sits for a year. He might even sit for two though I doubt it. Second season he'll probably be ready to get his feet wet and get in there.
     
  5. real

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    dito.
     
  6. Malloy

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    Crazy Herv, but that's EXACTLY how I would like it to turn out.

    Apart from the sandwich thingie, I'm vegetarian, but I would take a piece of dry toast :)
     
  7. Second Honeymoon

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    Hervoyel is on point on the current embarassment at QB. We need to get rid of our horrible QB and look to the future.

    1. Trade/Cut/Nuke David Carr
    2. Pickup Jake Plummer
    3. Draft Kevin Kolb or another later round QB.

    As long as we dont spend our 1st round draft pick on QB, I am fine with whatever they do to look to the future. I think Kolb makes some sense for a number of reasons, none of which are that he could come in and start immediately.

    I am very happy that the Carr Homers have gone into permanent hiding after yesterdays horrific performance by Carr. That just means fewer stupid excuses and less denial of the truth. Thank God the defense has really turned the corner over the past few months and now we are starting to get turnovers and pressure the QB.

    -5 Yards Passing by Carr = Homer Be Gone Spray

    Carr is the worst QB in the history of Houston professional football.

    doug from the woodlands
     
  8. Double Barrel

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    :gun:

    I could live with Herv's above scenario, though. If we draft a QB - but don't play him immediately! - and use a journeyman QB in the meantime, then I see progress (especially if our defense continues to improve with the anchors we've got to build upon).
     


  9. whiskeyrbl

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    Well who would take Carr? Oakland? That would be perfect,a straight up trade for lets say Huff or another one of their DB's. Or a couple of draft picks.
    :phone:
     
  10. Tx'nFanLostInSkinCountry

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    Sorry to sound stupid, but who in the heck is Kolb? I do my best to keep up with college ball and for the life of me I cant' place this kids name with a team.
     
  11. real

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    LOL...

    No way in he!! would Oakland trade Huff for Carr....


    At this point who ever would want Carr would probably be looking to fill a back up role....
     
  12. whiskeyrbl

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    University of Houston, The C-USA Player of the year. I think he had like 27 TD's and 3 INTS.
     
  13. real

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    •2006 C-USA Preseason Player-of-the-Year (The Sporting News)
    •2005 Third Team All-Conference USA
    •2003 C-USA Freshman-of-the-Year
    •2003 Third Team All-Conference USA
    •2003 C-USA All-Freshman Team
    • 2003 The Sporting News, Third-Team, Freshman All-America
    • 2003 Rivals.com Honorable Mention, All-America
    • 2003 Freshman of the Year, CollegeFootballNews.com
    •C-USA Co-Offensive Player-of-the-Week (Oct. 27, 2003) •C-USA Offensive Player-of-the-Week (Sept. 22, 2003)


    http://uhcougars.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kolb_kevin00.html
     
  14. whiskeyrbl

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    Why do you say no way in he!!. Look at it from a $ standpoint. They have 3 former 1st RD picks in their secondary,Carr a former #1 pick. Supposedly McNair said most of the coaches asked last year before they gave Carr his Extension said he could be a winner in the NFL.Was Oakland one of these? Maybe. Now one of our most glaring needs is DB's, Oakland is Qb. Now Carr also is from No. Cal. Perfect scenario? As far as our QB needs I think people are ready to lynch Carr whether or not all the bad plays are his fault or not. So why not try this ,get Plummer to come in and move the chains for a year and draft a QB,to prep for 2008. If you have a better thought please tell me. This is just a suggestion, for lack of a better one.
     
  15. TexanFanInCC

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    university of houston QB. he is from stephenville...or thats where he played in high school. hes a texas boy...making him a true TEXAN! :texflag:
     
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    I smell Miami :)
     
  17. Yankee_In_TX

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    And to risk being flamed, I don't think he's going to be more than average, if that, in the NFL. Everyone on here seems to love him. If it were another positiong, I'd say give him the shot, but not for QB.
     
  18. Tx'nFanLostInSkinCountry

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    Thanks for the info.
     
  19. Malloy

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    To be honest I'm not too hooked on high-profine QB's. I want one what's stable and consistant, he does not have to be a superstar.
     
  20. coachdent

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    Kolb is the starting QB for the University of Houston. Plays in a spread offensive system, similar to what Carr ran in college.

    Some folks are very negative about spread offense QBs because a lot of them have not translated into Canton QBs in pros. David Klingler was a guy, all University of Florida QBs...etc.

    I haven't seen enough of the U of H to say yeah or nay, but what I have seen is pretty good stuff and a third round pick would be appropriate for the Texans and Kolb. I don't think you go #2 or #1 with a QB. We have too many other pressing needs. DB & RB are two areas where we need playmakers as well as the offensive line. Too many variables at this point to predict. We could finish as high as 6-10 and as low as 4-12, so that makes a huge difference in where we pick and who will be available. We're definitely in a best available mode right now!
     

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