Lets talk about these rookies!

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  1. dalemurphy

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    Even without getting to see Cushing, I think it's clear that this is a pretty amazing draft class. There was a lot to be excited about with these guys.

    Connor Barwin - Man, the guy is a great athlete. Clearly, he will be a major asset for us on passing downs. LZ and Harris had some great things to say about him on their postgame podcast at chron.com/sports. He's quick, fast, and explosive and definitely has a nose for making plays- he got his hands on a ball and almost on a couple others. ON his sack, he gave a good swipe at the ball while rapping of Cassel as well. And, if you read his postgame quotes on houstontexans.com, he talks a lot about needing to play faster than he did yesterday and without so much hesitation.

    Caldwell - at RG, I he always engaged his man and I didn't seem him get badly beaten once. Also, he was able to move some guys and also was pretty good at executing cuts. In the second quarter (maybe the 3rd) he cut his man to the ground which openned up the lane for a 15 yard run and when the RB (Moats, I think) was tackled, Caldwell was downfield looking to lay another block on a safety... pretty impressive that he cut a man down, got up, and got downfield in time to be part of the play.

    Quin/ McCain - It was hard to see much from them on the TV. That being said, it's a good sign that they weren't being thrown on. McCain looked pretty good in run support, I thought.

    Anthony Hill - Looked athletic and made some very good blocks in the run game. I noticed a couple plays where he was able to get accross the face of a defender and seal him (hook block?).

    James Casey - WOW! steal! great catch and he was amazing on special teams.


    It's early but this draft could compete with our '06 draft as the best in franchise history.
     
  2. Thorn

    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    Can't disagree with that. I'm really impressed with Barwin and Casey. And we haven't even seen what Cushing can do yet. Hats off to Smith and Kubiac for a good draft. :)
     
  3. 76Texan

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    Good job Dale!

    Caldwell played very well, but he did missed a few blocks!
     
  4. Marcus

    Marcus Ruthless pragmatist

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    So is it OK if we dispense with the Jason Babin comparisons now?

    :winky:
     
  5. swtbound07

    swtbound07 Jackass of Day!

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    Nope. Talk to me in a real game, when teams are showing real offenses and it means something. Lets not go head over heels for a preseason opener. Didn't everybody here love that jacoby jones after the preseason?
     
  6. Honoring Earl 34

    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    No kidding , he made Albert look silly on his sack .
     
  7. 76Texan

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    As much as I like Connor from the start, it's too early to proclaim anything!
    He still has a lot to work on.
     
  8. nunusguy

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    What are you talking about, they're both white guys and Michigan natives which practically makes them indenticle twins, right ?
    Seriously, Babin II was impressive and I even saw enough versatility there to make him a full-time DE at some point in time. But for right now I'll settle for a solid complement to Mario in the nickle and he looked like he's on his way to filling that void on the team based upon the way he got that sack on the
    Chiefs starting OLT.
     


  9. b0ng

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    Maybe it's because it's been about 8 months since I've seen a Texan make a sack, I thought Barwin was downright glorious on that one play. Little shoulder dip and a head fake to go with it and Albert completely looked to the inside only to get his doors blown off. Guy looks pretty damn fast off the stunt too.

    Caldwell looked good for a rookie, we'd be picking him apart more if this was his 7th or 8th preseason game.

    Casey had a great 1 hander and solid ST play. I really want to see him and Dreesen compete for that 2nd receiving TE spot. Dreesen also had great play last night but this thread is for rooks.

    I couldn't really put my finger on any of the DB's besides Pittman little end of the game INT.
     
  10. m5kwatts

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    I was particularly jazzed about that Caldwell play you referred to -- he was all the way down field looking for more guys to hit on that run play, very awesome to see. I can't help but I think our corners looked great but they were covering pretty bad receivers and Dwayne Bowe got his when he was put in the game.
     
  11. 76Texan

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    Kubiak
    (on C Antoine Caldwell) "Inconsistent but, he shows flashes of what we drafted. He played guard and he played center so that makes it difficult on him. We just have to find some consistency in him and what he's doing. It's not a lack of effort; it's just a lot of things going on with him right now learning two spots."
     
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    It is good that Caldwell is getting time at C/G but I wished he could get reps in games at guard rest of TC. I think Myers will be the starter at center and WHite did not show me a reason not to be the #2. As a rookie, Caldwell probably would do better concentrating on guard only and then both positions later.
     
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    Couldn't agree with you more!
     
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    I disagree, I would concentrate on OC. Why? It's the harder of the two positions mentally. So you accelerating his growth by forcing the tougher position on him. He can handle it, IMO.
     
  15. 76Texan

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    The coaches seem to agree with you.

    I don't see the need for fastracking though.
    Unless he is slated to be the backup Center instead of White.

    Perhaps, they want to see how fast he can adapt.
    They might change course if they decide that it's too much for him.
     
  16. BigBull17

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    IDK. Mario, Ryans, OD, Winston, DA, and Spencer were a pretty good group of players. Sucks about Spencer. It'll take a prety good career by this group to out shine that draft. If you add K. Walter, sice we gave up a pick for him, very good.
     
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    '06 WAS a VERY good draft. '09 appears to be a pretty good one, also. Isn't it nice to have a GM and HC on the same page? DC and CC are just a bad dream, fading to black.Her'es to picking 32 in 2010. :shots:
     
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    I didn't see the Casey catch that everybody is talking about.

    Oh well. Maybe he'll make some more plays in the next few games. I'll definitely be watching for it.
     
  19. stingray

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    Exactly. I remember when many on here proclaimed Jacoby Jones the next Gale Sayers during his rookie pre-season
     
  20. IlliniJen

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    I had a big poop-eatin' grin on my face after Barwin's sack. Visions of sacks dancing in my head and all. Let's hope we see more of it.

    Those who thing this draft could rival 06's draft...I hope we're arguing years from now which year was better. That's a debate I'd love to have on our hands.

    FOOTBALL IS HERE, Y'ALL!!!
     

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