LB Rankings from ESPN

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by Indy, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. Indy

    Indy Rookie

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    I didn't think our linebacking core was THAT bad. Wong (I know he's just coming back from injury) and Ryans are solid starters, and I don't think Orr has played badly this season. I have to say I'm a little surprised.
     
  2. Porky

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    If not last, we are right up there. Or is it down there? Even with Ryans, this is a very poor group of LB. Of course, don't try to tell that to the 13-3 brigade. I think they have the Titans too high. They need to be about 10 spots lower. Bullock is a good one, but there others are nothing special at all. If I had to be pinned down, I would make the Texans 31st. I think they should be ahead of the 49ers.
     
  3. Indy

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    That was actually my thought as well. I thought that the Texans should be ranked aboved the 49ers and the Lions. I don't think the LB core is great by any means, but I think Wong and Ryans are solid.
     
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    Ryans has 53 tackles, while our other to starters have 47 tackles combined (Greenwood-35; Orr-12). That is terrible, that in 6 games two of your LB's average 6.5 tackles per game combined. 32nd seems about right to me
     
  5. Bamaborn-Texasbred

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    I think other teams offensive coaches look at our defense and think they will just run everything right up the middle. Hence, Demeco is getting the lion's share of the tackles. Also, if you are someone that hasn't figured it out yet, Demeco is always around the ball. It doesn't matter where the play goes, he'll be in hot pursuit like Buford T. Justice.
     
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    Why would it matter if the texans were 30 or 32? In a nushelll our LB core stinks right now. They may improve when Wong returns. The question I would have though is this. Where does Ryans play when Wong is in the game?
     
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    I've been thinking...

    well, to be honest, I've been drinking, and oh, by the way, thinking...

    Based on how sorry our LB corp is (other than you-know-who), and also based on the fact that CC Brown looks like he's losing his job to Simmons, do you think there would ever be a situational use for CC as a LB?
    He gives up about 35lbs to our next LB... he goes about 200, but he hits harder than most of our LBs, and he's better in run support than most of them too.
    I do realize that it's hard to compare what he brings to run support vs. a LB, because of different responsibilities and what not... but do you think there could be a few times throughout a game that he could man a LB spot?

    Ignorant question complete...
     
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    Only thing I have to say is that I've always thought Greenwood sucked, but with 12 tackles and bad pass coverage it looks like Orr is even worse. I always liked Wong in general, but he sucked as a MLB in the 3-4, not that that matters now.
     
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    I wish we still had sharper. I also think peek is a LB not a DE, but then we would have 3 LB's with no coverage skills.
     
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    beerlover Site Contributor

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    ya just never know whats gonna happen but I would imagine the Texans use at least one draft pick on a LB and tryout at least a couple free agents during the offseason.

    If a player Kubiak & Smith love slips to them in the 3rd rd. for instance this is where they bite. Someone lacking measreables but is a football player hard to get off the field because he is so productive, a player like Oklahoma OLB Rufus Alexander- [​IMG] while I would like to see him face more passing attacks from what I've seen he is one of the better coverage LB's in College Football and would look excellent along side DeMeco Ryans over the next several years for the Texans @ OLB.
     
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    12. Chiefs (Derrick Johnson)
     
  12. Porky

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    The problem with Orr is he is much better suited for a 3-4. With hard work, he made himself into a decent rush 3-4 lb last year. He had his best game last week, but he isn't good in coverage at all. I was never in favor of signing Greenwood for the kind of dough we gave him. To call him an average weakside OLB is a stretch. Wong might help some. He should take over for Orr, and help our very weak depth. Our lack of any quality depth also figures into the ratings I am sure.
     
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    Orr and Peek seem to be high motor guys better suited for pass rushing than pass coverage. It's been hinted at that they aren't the most cerebral players on the roster. Add to that the fact that a QB sneak could pick up a 1st down on 3rd and 20 against our D, I think our ranking makes sense. JMHO
     
  14. Indy

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    So do we try and pick up a LB in Free Agency? There's quite a few good ones that are going to be avaliable this year. Namely June and Fletcher
     
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    Quit throwing salt on the wound. Got Spencer. That sugar was almost ok. We'll find out about TJ the rest of the year. See if our stud can rev it up the rest of the way.


    I'm seeing what I'm seeing. The only question for me now is how long Kubes and Smith will take it. We'll see. The rookie lable will only spread so far over the blemishes. He's out of position.
     
  16. rafterticket

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    CC losing his job to Simmons might not be that bad a thing. Does anyone remember what a great job he was doing a couple of years ago before he was out with a concussion? If Simmons will hit and punsih the way he did a couple of years ago, this could be a great sign of our defense's resurgence.

    But, to answer your question, no. Jason Simmons, based on his past performance of pursuit and hard hitting, would see the field as a linebacker before CC Brown. But neither ever will.
     
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    I'd just like a little more production out of the safty positons. That's all. Don't give a hoot who it is. If we missed on these two, go get two more next off season. I think they've had ample opportunity to show us what they've got. I'm not impressed so far. Just make plays, Baby !
     
  18. Double Barrel

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    It's a square peg in a round hole with some of our players we acquired for the 3-4. It doesn't surprise me that our LBs are ranked last. It'll take a couple of seasons to not only get the starters we need for a 4-3, but to add some depth to the roster. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a lot of these guys gone from the roster next year.
     
  19. bigbrewster2000

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    No you don't he is out of the league due to injury. But I do know where you are coming from. Our LB corp does suck pretty bad and it is in large part to Greenwood. No one can stand that guy. We will draft his replacement next year and all will be right in the LB world for the Texans:shades:
     

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