Lamar Miller Expectations

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  1. Earl34

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    When we signed Lamar Miller, his performance during this streak was what I expected.

    In his first season with the Texans, Miller's first couple of games included
    Game1: Miller had 28 carries while Blue had 1
    Game2: Miller had 25 carries while Blue had 5
    Game3: Miller had 21 carries while Blue/Grimes had 5
    Game4: Miller had 19 carries while Blue had 3
    Game5: Miller had 9 carries and injured.
    Game6: Miller had 25 carries while Blue had 2

    By game 3, I said, this guy cannot handle this workload and will not last the season. Sure enough, as the 2016 went on, he got injured, appeared slow and couldn't withstand the number of carries. I kept wondering why would you take a speedback without any contact in the preseason and then give him that workload?

    We all know about Miller's limitations as a runner, but if he's fresh and you can give him a seam, he is an above average RB who can give you explosive plays. I never understood why the coaching staff could not understand this and give a backup RB, 5-12 carries per game to keep him fresh and minimize the 25 carry games.

    Well, it looks like after two years of mishandling Miller, the coaching staff has figured how to maximize his talent. He needs a backup who can help with the workload.

    Losing the weight he gained to handle the punishment, it looks like Miller has regain that quickness we saw in Miami and reminds us of why he was signed in the first place.

    Kudos to Miller and the coaching staff.
     
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  2. thunderkyss

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    I like to give the coaching staff some kudos as well. The last two games especially they have been helping him with the diverse ways they've been giving him the ball & the blocking up front.

    They've run sweeps, tosses, delays & used the play action often enough defenses have to be cautious about attacking it.

    They've run stretches, pulls, iso... hit every gap across the line.

    They even used a fake toss today.
     
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  3. Thorn

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    I have never thought that much of Miller, but that's changing. Still don't think much of Blue though.
     
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    Miller and Blue have turned into a nice combo. Coaches finally set up players to succeed. But we all know a healthy DW4 biggest influence in both RBS shining
     
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    I don't think that the turnaround has been coaching or using him different. He's just attacking and being more aggressive than he has been in the past with us. Could have been running like this for us all along IMO.
     
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    I don't know. Browns had a healthy Mayfield & Chubb couldn't get it going.
     
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    Well 4 turnovers vs 0 is the same story. Chubb and baker flashed. They also have a DC running the show. Word is packer coach will probably be coach next year

    Lol redzone just said McCarthy fired from packers
     
  8. Texansballer74

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    Great observation and write up Earl.

    Credit goes the coaching, offensive line and Miller.

    Toss in our special weapon D. Watson
     
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    Rest is one thing but my observation is Miller isn’t hesitating at all this year when he runs. He’s not slowing when he gets to the gap(s).
     
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    That may also be because there are gaps to hit this year.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk
     
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    I feel like Millers vision is steadily improving. He has cut back the past few weeks more than he has the past few years combined. Not sure if we are going away from power to more zone but he is seeing things better.
     
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    Between the cutbacks & pushing the edge, either he's seeing things better or they finally took the leash off.
     
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    It's not zone but he seems more decisive. He's planting a foot and going.
     
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    He's finally healthy. I remember his first year here, dude had 4 different injuries. He battled through all of that but I was surprised we kept running him a lot.
     
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  15. Earl34

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    Agree, The workload contributed to his injuries. Also with Grimes on the roster, you would think the coaching staff would have done a better job with his workload.

    Years ago, I read this article about Tony Dorset’s disliking how Landry limited his carries. Later in his career, he realized how much Landry was simply trying to keep hm healthy and maximize his effectiveness.

    For Miller to stay healthy and effective, you have to monitor his workload. He should rarely get more than 20 carries per game.
     
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    There are/were dang few backs that can handle 25-30 carries a game and have any sort long career. Miller in my mind is really more of a third down back rather than a franchise back. Given the though, I have to give him props for this season so far.
     
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    No coincidence that as the offensive line has started to gel the run game has taken off. Miller is a good back when you let him spread his wings and fly. If you think you're going to run him into a wall 25 times a day and be successful then you would be mistaken.

    Blue you can run into a wall 40 times a game, thats what he's built to do, he will give you 2-3 yards no matter what. He wont get tripped up, he isnt trying to dance around, he's north south blood on the moon.

    Its a nice tandem, but to me Bill OBriens run philosophy is SCREAMING for Leveon Bell, I mean its a match made in heaven.
     
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    I believe he has played himself into a extension.
     
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    He still has a year on his contract after this year sir.
     
  20. noxiousdog

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    The offense has improved throughout the year. The O-Line is getting more cohesive as a unit; we have that 2nd receiver that opens it up a bit (more 7 man fronts); and Deshaun is healthier than he's been all season (linebacker have to spy him).

    There's way more holes for Miller (and Blue) to run through, and they are taking advantage of it.
     

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