Lack of NO HUDDLE, RESTRICTIVE AUDILBE SYSTEM Causing Blitz Problems?

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  1. Lord Bills

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    I cant help but think that Kubiak's fraudulent, restrictive audible system or lack thereof is contributing to this offense inability to adjust to the blitz. Even when schaub was playing, you blitz him and its all over.

    You look at qbs who make you pay when you blitz them too much (rogers, maning, brady) they have the full freedom and confidence of their coach to make changes at the line of scrimmage.

    Ive seen Keenum play at UofH, the man played with crappy offensive lines and everybody in the world knew he was going to throw the ball yet he always made plays. I find it hard to believe that he cant figure out how to beat a blitz in the nfl especially when they arent even disguising it. They are tipping their hand and letting us know they are going to blitz yet we cant come up with a screen pass to a running back or call a blitz breaking rb draw play.

    IMO, its Kubiak's idiotic playcalling, restrictive audible system and outdated offensive philosophy.
     
  2. eriadoc

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    When Schaub is in there, a blitz means a ball thrown away or in the dirt, or a fetal position sack. When Keenum was in there, it meant something similar. In either case, the OL is confused as to who to pick up and often let multiple rushers through the line. The RBs miss blitz pick-ups just as much. The receivers don't adjust their routes, and even if they do, there still has to be a minimum time to even get the ball out for a hot route. And on top of that, teams have been using exotic blitzes where the QB doesn't know which guys are blitzing and which guys are dropping, so calling a hot route is not as easy as it is in most message board fans' heads.

    It's a total team disaster.
     
  3. thunderkyss

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    I normally don't chime in, but it's getting stupid around here.

    The "restrictive" play calling thing has been in place in this system for a long time. It won Super Bowls with Joe Montana, Steve Young, & John Elway. It made Jake Plummer look like a damn fine QB & it took Matt Schaub to two division championships, two pro Bowls & a pro bowl MVP.

    It's not the same as other systems, but it works.

    Not only that, but each play has it's own tweak that can be applied at any time to put the offense in a position to succeed. It's not the system's fault that Case can't count the number of defenders on either side of the ball & determine which side would be beneficial for the run play we have called up.

    & on top of that, if you remember the fake spike turned fade to Andre... that's a signal they've got, something they've worked on, it's always in. They can do it at anytime. DeAndre has one as well, he talked about it after the Tennessee game.

    So stop it. It's not the system. If the gimp can throw for 4000 yards in 4 of the last 5 seasons.... & our play calling is "uber-predictable" it's not the system.
     
  4. amazing80

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    youre so short minded and hard headed its ridiculous

    our system has been a failure for a decade now...youre gonna hang your hat on 2 playoff appearances and a couple super bowls from a decade ago....:choke: have fun
     
  5. Lord Bills

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    Joe Montana? Steve Young? John Elway?

    huh? For you to say this philosophy and restrictive audible system is the same exact system that made Montana, Young, & Elway superbowl champs is a freaking STREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETCH.

    Just stop it.

    You can also stop pretending to be anything other than the Captain of Straddling the Fence in order to pretend not to be a called a Schaub Apologist. Two division titles? a Pro bowl mvp?

    Are you serious?

    We only won those division titles when peyton's neck imploded and colts went into rebuild mode. I not even gonna dignify the pro bowl mvp talk. That's when you know you are dealing with a fanboy.

    fake spike? have you ever seen matt schaub do that play? that was on keenum. that was keenum adlibing. For you to give that credit to kubiak's offensive system is a freaking joke. Its quite obvious the system is broken even before keenum ever took a snap for the texans.

    This offense has had trouble scoring since last year, and kubiak's retarded answer to the seattle game about schaub being able to audible should have washed the ignorance and stupidity away from people like you who still think kubiak is some offensive guru.

    I was wrong.
     
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    :texflag: well said
     
  7. Tolar's Ghost

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    Funny - and timely - that you mention the no-huddle:

    The Steelers ran the no-huddle on their first three possessions of the game today. Yes, the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    It caught the Lions offguard and staked the Steelers to a 14-0 lead. It was clear that it energized the team and seemed to be the springboard for their unexpected win. They ran it at other times, too.

    Too bad the Texans don't do it.

    A related note: I caught bits and pieces of the Texans game. From what I could tell, they weren't calling any designed rollouts or bootlegs for Keenum. Several times against the Chiefs, the instant he got the snap he was on the move. But I've seen little, if any, of that since. That was a staple of his repertoire at UH.

    Scrambing is hardly the same as rolling out.
     
  8. thunderkyss

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    My point exactly.

    Don't say it's restrictive & the QB lacks the aibility to audible, then turn around & tell me the QB was able to make a play because he called an audible.
     
  9. SchaubApologist

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    are you really bragging about a probowl mvp?

    dude, come on. it's getting really hard reading your blather.
     
  10. amazing80

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    :slapfight: you think gary knew about that? i bet he went off script, ala stafford diving over the oline for a td fake spike
     
  11. Mr. Texan

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    absolutely. that was 100% off script and it probably pissed gary the F off.
     
  13. Texecutioner

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    This has to be your typical troll like efforts to play some devil's advocate role for responses. Back to the ignore list you go.
     
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  14. Lord Bills

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    lol wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut??????????


    smdh,

    "keenum fake spiked!!!!!! its proof that kubiak has a legit audible system!!!!!!"

    you're one of the most dishonest posters ive ever come across. Im logging off before i say something that gets me banned.
     
  15. Lord Bills

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    wow.

    and he started the thread too.

    im outta here.
     
  16. thunderkyss

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    Stick to the point. Schaub is a garbage QB, but he looked good in this system.

    If Keenum is "the truth" this system that turns garbage into wine should make Keenum a God. Not being able to move the ball, or not being able to pick up the blitz has nothing to do with the system.

    Several teams use the same system, they don't audible. Each play is adjustable to what the defense shows them.
     
  17. tvaughan

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    One of the things I noticed today was that on one of those jail-break blitzes, not a single receiver made a break less than 15 yards out. It was one of the few shots I could see downfield with how the TV covers the game.

    How does that happen? After they have been killing you all day sending 6-7 guys -- and the line isn't slowing them down at all (there's was almost always at least one guy unabated to the QB), there is no hot route inside, crossing, a slant, or out to the flat or SOMETHING that doesn't require Case to wait for it to develop?

    It just seemed so strange. Even if Case isn't making the read, why isn't a receiver making the read and going to a hot rot of some kind? It's takes two to make the read after all.

    I did not understand the scheme here. Totally baffling.
     
  18. thunderkyss

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    He wouldn't have finished the game if you're right about what a control freak Gary is."
     
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    After the game Kubiak said Hopkins took less snaps as the game went on because he made several mistakes.
     

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