First let me go through how a trade starts in the NFL. Okay look every GM has every other GM's direct line phone number. They also have cell phone numbers, but nobody uses those initially, because it's considered rude. You call back someone who called your office, and if his assistant tells you to call the cell you do. Talks usually start like this: "Mike, I'm calling to add my name to the list." "Which list?" "Folks wanting to know what you want for Carr. We might have some interest." "I wondered if I was gonna hear from you. What are you thinking?" And here we have the first major point in the discussion. He who admits first, loses. The calling GM will ALWAYS say something like, "hadn't really thought much more than that we're interested. What kind of offers are you taking seriously?" "Hadn't really gotten any we're taking seriously or he'd be gone Jim. You know me!" They'll BS like this until one guy says something. Usually it's the caller who has to fess up. And, they ALWAYS say "I heard you got offered a third and an OL for him. I might could work something like that," whether he heard that or not. Anyway, that's the way a trade typically goes down, or at least starts, as ridiculous as it sounds. Just like hustin' for you fella's that know what I mean. So, I have heard from an irrefutable source that those conversations took place with the following teams: Detroit Miami (not sure why) Oakland Kansas City (also not sure why) Seattle (makes me wonder about Hasselbeck's shoulder). I don't know what they all talked about (other than Detroit), or who else may have called, but that's at least a partial list. So to get to my point............ look there had to be SOMEONE who was willing to restructure David's contract, sign him to a 5 year deal and rework the final year of our contract, and give us SOMETHING for him, even if it was a spare part OL or a 5th round draft pick. I don't care what Richard Justice says, we got nothing when we could have had something. The WORST part of this whole deal is that Kubiak came in here and RE-annointed David as THE GUY, made sure he got a fatass bonus that is going to kick our asses this year when Carr isn't even here, and then a mere 16 games later decides to mortgage the future for someone else and can Carr. I seriously don't get it. One season where the guy completes 68+% of his passes, has nearly his highest QB rating ever, and does it all with NO RB and NO OL, and that's a reason 365 days after giving him 8 million bucks to fire him? You know all for the Texans but either Kubiak/Smith are IDIOTS for cutting the guy, or they were IDIOTS for giving him all that money last year. One way or the other they have made MONUMENTAL F-ups in a very short period of time with this organization. Its going to take alot for me to get the respect that I had for Kubes when he was hired. Passing on Young/Leinart/Cutler and signing David to an ENORMOUS tender, and then outright cutting him without getting anything is INSANE. Which we will never get off that subject. On top of that, they took a career backup 3rd round draft choice who happens to have a little buzz about him, and threw him into the same crappy position Carr was in; No OL, no RB, one WR, and a porous defense that can't keep you off the field. It does seem to be very confusing though. Perhaps Big Daddy Bob was just doing Carr yet another favor. Its just like you want to......what now?!