Kevin Walter can go sit on the bench..

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  1. Carr Bombed

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    There is no longer any reason why he should be the #2 WR any more.

    Start Jean outside opposite Andre and make Keshawn the guy that you move in and out of the slot.
     
  2. michaelm

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    Not going to happen. Kubes won't have a rookie and guy coming off the practice squad at WR2 and WR3.
    Walter is an above average downfield blocker, and knows where he is supposed to be on any given play.
     
  3. TEXANRED

    TEXANRED Texan-American

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    I was thinking Martin #2, Jean #3, and Walter #4.

    Has Posey even caught a pass yet?
     
  4. SmoochyTX

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    This.
     
  5. Rey

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    I'm starting to lean that way....

    A lot if people acting like there is no way this'll happen and I just disagree. A lot of people were shocked when Demeco was traded and felt like that wouldn't happen either.

    I don't know if they start the season ahead of Walter, but if they keep this up they'll definitely eat into his snaps.
     
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    Kevin Walter will always have a moment in Texans history with his game winning TD to seal our first AFC division title.

    But if if Jean and Martin can produce and show they know where to be, then I don't see why we can't usher in the next era of Texan receivers.
     
  7. eriadoc

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    FWIW, Walter had his man beat for a TD in the end zone, but Schaub threw it too high on what was I think his only real incompletion.
     
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    i see it like this

    #1 AJ

    #2 Posey/KW

    #3 SLot Martin

    #4 Jean

    #6 Kick returner Holiday


    has u can see we have to many good WR's kinda a good problem but

    has i see it right now and even tho it sucks If it was me i would have to Cut KW and Holiday
     


  9. eriadoc

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    Personally, I want to see Jean take over Walter's spot, and I added the Posey pick to my mental list of WTF moments that Smithiak has committed.

    That said, If Matt throws a catchable ball in the first quarter to Walter in the end zone, I suspect tonight's conversation might have a slightly different tone to it.
     
  10. Carr Bombed

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    Im tired of hearing about Kevin Walter's run blocking.. if this is the case let's just line a FB out wide.

    His primary job is to catch footballs and make plays... so how many catches does he have this preseason? Fact is, he's being out played by two young bucks.. young bucks who are much better playmakers and much more explosive. Also from what I've seen so far, it looks like they know where to be as well.. it's not like they need a map in order to line up.

    This offense needs more players who can score from anywhere on the field. Where we don't have to rely on stringing together a bunch of plays. Walter is not that guy.
     
  11. PapaL

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    Too many good WRs?!?

    We have one good WR (when healthy) Johnson.

    One pretty good, KW.

    And a bunch of unproven young guys. Let's see how they react when the bullets are real and the D actually game plans.
     
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    I've seen Walter catch a TD or two since he's been here. Catching one in the preseason wouldn't really change my opinion of him. He doesn't have the blazing speed to make me think he's going to behind too many defenses. I don't see him pulling away from anyone, breaking any ankles..... or changing the game.

    Walter is a #3 in this league.

    That said, I haven't seen enough of the kids to suggest they should supplant him. But I am liking what I've seen so far.
    Posey was a third round pick, he might be the best of the bunch, but it may take time before he catches on. Keyshawn.... a lower pick than Posey seems like he was born for this. That's special, & rare. LeSean, if he hadn't got hurt last year, I think Jacoby wouldn't have made the team last season.....
     
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    Tbh I think kw is a good wr, I just think we can do better at his position. He'd make excellent depth though.
     
  14. Carr Bombed

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    For me it wouldn't be.. I'm sure if Jean would've ran the same route on the same play he would've been available to over throw as well. You see it's not about one random catch or even one random TD reception.. it's about the amount of targets or should I say the amount of times that you're targeted. It sure is funny how Jean and Martin get multiple passes thrown their way regardless who is the QB, but all Walter will get is his one lone token pass... maybe. That right there tells me he does not get open/seperation on a consistent basis.

    I used to defend Walter with all the "but he's a good run blocker" crap as well, but after last season I was done with him. With Andre down and with his only real competition being a bipoler Jones the guy still couldn't get targeted consistently.. and I don't think it had anything to do with Schaub or T.J. After that it became deafening how greatly we needed to upgrade the #2 WR position.
     
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    Kevin Walter isn't going to be benched, that's not happening. But, the fact this thread even exists means we believe our WR situation isn't as dire as we thought. And that's a very good thing.
     
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    I disagree with you on this one. What has Posey done to earn the #2 spot? IMO its a 3 way battle for the second spot between Martin, Jean, and Walter. Posey has played himself onto the practice squad cus there is no way I am cutting Holliday, an actual productive player, in favor of Posey. I dont care where Posey was drafted.
     
  17. rmartin65

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    Nah, you keep him for this season.

    He is proven, knows the system, run blocks well, and has sticky hands. He wont put up awesome stats, but he has a role.

    Now, his playing time could be reduced based on the situation on the field.
     
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    Yep. Kubiak likes Walter too much. According to him Kevin Walter will one day cure world hunger, while blocking the looters.
     
  19. mariowillshine15

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    Posey needs more time. He was out all last year.

    There were good reports coming out of training camp about him and I would like to see what he could do with the 1st team or at least the 2nd team.

    Martin and Jean have earned their reps and have been great I would just like to see Posey playing with a more experienced QB. Even if they just throw it to him deep a few times to see what he can do.
     
  20. TEXANRED

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    Martin and Jean beat out Posey for playing time with the first teamers.

    Posey sitting out all of last year only reinforces the fact the he needs to go to the practice squad. I can't think of any productive player I would cut just so I can give a spot to Posey. He can not make plays sitting at home watching the game.

    Actually I expect him to have some sort of odd injury that will get him IR'd the last week of preseason.
     

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