Justice in the Chronicle - I gotta know

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  1. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    Ok, I'm sure most everyone here has or will read this article in todays Chronicle. Would all of you do me the courtesy of telling me what you think about it here on this thread?
     
  2. Rightnow

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    Bill Simmons said any team the Capers coaches will underachieve. I think he is right.
     
  3. PapaL

    PapaL Loose Screw

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    The biggest thing that stands out to me is:

    Spend all offseason working on things, and only use them 2 or 3 times? Makes no sense.
     
  4. cuppacoffee

    cuppacoffee Resident Grouch

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    "Johnson was escorted out of the interview area after using some form of the word embarrass three times. He was allowed to answer just eight questions." :embarrass

    Our elite players will bolt the first chance they get. There are always ways to force a trade. :(
     
  5. ArlingtonTexan

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    Honestly, there have been a handful of people (Vinny for one) stating this difference for a couple of years. Palmer has a history in wide-open attacks and Capers is from a ball control with deep play action passing back ground. It is obvious that Capers has the last say in the matter.
     
  6. TEXANS84

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    What I'd like to know is where they hid the offense from the Vikings game.
     
  7. beerlover

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    Justice hit the nail on the head :brickwall preaching to the choir :soapbox:
     
  8. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    That struck me as strange too. If that's completely the truth then what is going on here? The entire article rang true to me. The team, at least on offense, does feel divided and pulled in two different directions.

    I'm not apologizing for Carr but he wasn't this flaky when he got here. I think we made him what he is now. We destroyed his confidence and let the rest of the NFL destroy his body in a record setting beating that's still in progress.

    Whatever he might have been able to become we'll never know because we can't start over with him from the beginning. That baggage he's carrying around will be there for the rest of his career and I would not be the slightest bit surprised if that career grinds to a halt right here in Houston this season or next.
     
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  9. rittenhouserobz

    rittenhouserobz Hall of Fame

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    They should have picked Peppers instead of Carr. He would have served the purpose of the head coach. I am not saying I don't want a QB that can throw, but maybe Peppers would have been better for this team than Carr. IMHO.
     
  10. beerlover

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    where the Texans failed this year started in the draft by not getting their WR (Williamson) then not addressing the #2 slot WR position in free agency by doing whatever it took to sign Derrick Mason. its apparent to me at least this is killing Carr and the offense because teams stack the box against the run which also increases pocket pressure and tripple coverage on Andre :brickwall
     
  11. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    Me too. It sounds like the team is afraid that given enough time one of their stars will say what's on his mind and they'd rather we not hear that. Carr, despite what's become of his game is 100% class in terms of the kind of person he is and I think the team feels "safer" letting him speak at length with the press. He's not about to point fingers or call anyone out at this point. By the end of the year they may be keeping him limited to 10 or fewer questions. Who knows.
     
  12. PapaL

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    I've been thinking the same thing.
     
  13. TheOgre

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    The offense is stale and predictable. I think Chris Palmer and Greg Davis (Texas Longhorn's Offensive Coordinator) went to the same school. It is very aggravating.

    I personally believe that Carr can be a good to great QB, but not with the current setup.
     
  14. Errant Hothy

    Errant Hothy Hypermediocrity

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    "That's as hopeless as I've felt in the pocket," he said

    That's a very damning statment, espically coming form Carr.

    Has Carr regresed? Yeah I think so. Does he have the talent and knowledge to succed in teh NFL? I think he does, but I doubt we'll ever see it with the current regime; and if Capers is over riding Palmer's attemtps to open up the game, which is what Justice is implying, then Dom's time is up.

    I never thought I'd be sayign these things but yesterday's performance may be these team's worst yet, and I fear for Carr next week.
     
  15. SBTexans08

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    Yup...me too...that's why the webmasters of this MB chose this image of Carr for the forums banner/header image. :brickwall

    Run Carr, RUN!!!! :eek:

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  16. V Man

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    Could have done that and got Clinton Portis in the second round instead on Gaffney. Hindsight in 20/20 they say.
     
  17. SBTexans08

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    You're right. Anyhow....Clinton Portis wouldn't have Clinton Portis type numbers anyhow...not with this O-line. idonno:
     
  18. bckey

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    Herv, that article says it all. It is kind of disturbing in a way. I have never liked or wanted Capers as our hc. It feels like we have wasted 3+ years because of him at the helm. If the Texans continue to play the way they played in Buffalo then it could get ugly at home games. We saw a little of the ugliness at the Cleveland game last year. I think McNair would be forced to make a change even if he doesn't really want to.

    "I never had so much protection in my life," Losman said.

    "That's as hopeless as I've felt in the pocket," he said. (Carr)

    Johnson was escorted out of the interview area after using some form of the word embarrass three times. He was allowed to answer just eight questions.

    Carr hung around longer. When he did leave, he bent down to pick up a box lunch.

    He needed two tries. He groaned the first time and straightened up. He reached a second time, picked the food up and walked unsteadily out of the stadium.

    "That's as hopeless as I've felt in the pocket," he said.

    He didn't take a shot at Palmer or anyone else. But he came close.

    "We've got the players," Carr said. "We've got talent. But they (the Bills) were on everything. Everything we did, they jumped. There's no other way to put it. We just didn't get it done."

    "It just feels like the first year," he said. "I sat on the sidelines for five minutes after the game. I was totally in disbelief of what just went on."
     
  19. V Man

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    I know the O-line isn't the best, but they have helped DD to back to back 1000 yard seasons. (Portis would have been fine, especially if we haven't wasted 3 2nd rounders in 3 years on projects, instead on O-line help like they should have been used for) Hard to run block with 8 or 9 in the box like the article said.

    Also O-line can't take the blame for it all, our backs couldn't pick up a blitz if the knew exactly where it was coming from.
     
  20. SBTexans08

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    It was a joke. Having allowed for a back to gain over 1,000 yrds in back to back seasons nullifies my statement. I didn't mean it all.
     

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