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  1. Grid

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    Texans | Johnson Likely to Move to Defensive End - from www.KFFL.com
    Sun, 24 Apr 2005 13:41:32 -0700

    ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Houston Texans are likely to play rookie DT Travis Johnson at defensive end since they run a pure 3-4 defense, which requires bigger defensive ends. Johnson appears to have the right blend of size and speed to succeed in the 3-4 defensive alignment.





    In related news.. why havent we signed any UDFAs :P



    Also.. Im not one to fling insults towards Capers.. but in his interview on draft day.. wasnt he talking about T. Johnson as a runstuffing DT? Either Casserly just does not keep im informed, AT ALL, about who they are drafting.. or their scouting info sucks and they just figured out that he would be a better DE.
     
  2. BattleRedGuy

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    What am I missing? In a 3-4 you have an NT and two DT. The DE is actually a linebacker. I don't get it.
     
  3. texman8

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    Most likely,Len P. was mistakenly using wrong terminology. Texans may use TJ sometimes to replace Payne on passing downs.
     
  4. Grid

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    in the 3-4 you have the DT and two DE.

    In his interview.. Capers was talking about Johnson as a DT in our system, when he would actually be playing DE.
     
  5. Dionysus22

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    Actually in a 3-4 you have a NT, who is lined head-up on the center or shaded a bit in either "A" gaps(between center and guard) . And two DE's who are generally lined head-up on the OT or shaded on the inside or outside shoulder pad . To be a DT, you're lined up between the guard and tackle or shaded a bit to either side.
     
  6. Vinny

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    All our d-linemen are pretty much DT's. I'm sure we see Johnson on the end and inside. You can only play one or the other and he will be inside at times Im sure.
     
  7. keyfro

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    actually i think they are gonna try him out at both positions...see if he can really handle NT in a pinch if payne gets hurt again...he mention in his interview that he has played NT before...he believes he is a two gap DT...i see him more as a DE personally but he has the size to be a NT...but he has the ability to play both NT and DE it makes him that much more valuable to us seeing how spears would have been only to play DE...and the more i look at the two of them the more i see johnson being the better suited for the 3-4
     
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    In long down and distance we will likely have Babin and Peek at the DE and the pass rushing DL who will stay on the field is likely Johnson. In that case he will be in the middle.
     


  9. nunusguy

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    I know most on our Board thought if we went this way we'd pick Marcus Spears, but apparently TJ is a better choice if a team runs a pure 3-4.
    Had TJ been there when the Cowboys picked at 20, it would have been interesting to see if they would have chosen him instead of who they did (Spears). I do think the Cowboys may work in more 4-3 formations along with their 3-4, so Spears maybe more flexible and therefor better suited for them, but in pure 3-4 TJ best way to go. Of course one can only speculate about it
    since we'd picked TJ at 16 before Cowboys 20 pick.
    Excluding the DE/OLB tweeners (Ware, Merriman, Pollack ,etc.) Spears was usually the most highly rated DLineman on the mocks but as we know many who produce the mocks are the biggest conformists going and the last to get
    the real insider info.
     
  10. Htown34s

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    It seems like we have enough of the stand up pluggers coming off the bench on the DL now. What we were missing was someone with speed and a little more agility. To me, that is what sold C&C on TJ. Anyone else think so?
     
  11. Vinny

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    I'd agree with that. We want more pass rush from the DL's to help out the OLB's. You can't double everyone on the edge if someone is blowing up the inside of the line. Most of our protection problems on Offense is due to the inside push blowing up the pocket moreso than the edge guys getting around the corner.
     
  12. TheOgre

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    It is like the 3-4 is three large DT's up front, 2 undersized DE's playing OLB and 2 undersized LB's (perhaps even oversized SS's) playing ILB's.
     

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