Jerry Jones may seek Rooney Rule exemption

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    What is good for the goose is ONLY good for the goose. The hen, that is. The gander doesn't give away golden eggs.

     
  2. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    I dont know, this makes sense to me. If you have an interim coach at the end of the season, you should be allowed to just hire him full time. Its ridiculous to bring in a guy that you know you wont hire.
     
  3. ThaShark316

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    to your point, rmartin, it's a slap in the face to the interviewee
     
  4. Showtime100

    Showtime100 Got JJ?

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    I hear and agree with what you are saying, but others have had to play by that rule and now Jerry will also. No other owner was so full of it he or she ever thought publicly of making a challenge to the rule. Personally I think the rule sucks also, but until it goes off the books Jerry is stuck with it.

    I don't know, I just hate JJ. *sigh*
     
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    Showtime100 Got JJ?

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    It is to all, which is why it sucks.
     
  6. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    Yep. Might as well be grabbing a random guy off the street, the chance they will get hired is about the same.
     
  7. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    Oh, I hate the leather-face as well, but I think he is right in this instance.
     
  8. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    The Rooney Rule was voted on and universally accepted by the NFL owners........once for the HC position and once for the upper front office positions. Written into the rule was that it didn't apply if an assistant coach has language in his contract guaranteeing him the head coaching job in case of an opening. For as long as we have heard that Jerruh was "grooming" Garrett for Phillips' job, it is mind boggling that this was not done.......and now Jerruh wants an exemption for his short-sightedness.
     


  9. HJam72

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    All he's gotta do is pay some nobody (that happens to be black) to apply for the job.

    Stupid rule.
     
  10. Dutchrudder

    Dutchrudder King of the Potato People

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    Let Dungy interview, he likes the spotlight anyways. Win-win.
     
  11. kiwitexansfan

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    Let him promote from within.

    Less competition for better candidates for the Texans.
     
  12. Rey

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    I don't mind the Rooney rule, but I don't have a problem with Jones getting an exemption here.

    Why make him interview candidates if he already has his guy...
     
  13. cdollaz

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    The whole league should get a permanent exemption from this stupid rule.
     
  14. Corrosion

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    Yeah , seems like such a waste of time if he has his mind made up ..... and bringing someone in for an interview just because of the color of their skin is kinda silly to begin with.
     
  15. DexmanC

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    You do know that coaches like Dungy, Tomlin, Smith, and Green wouldn't have
    been able to make their marks on the NFL without such a rule, right? (the
    rule was formed as a reaction to the exlusion of *minority* candidates from
    even an interview.)
     
  16. Hervoyel

    Hervoyel The Right Track

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    Exactly. There should be one standing exception to the Rooney rule and that should be for interim coaches who are then given the postion full time. The interim coach must have been on-staff under the former coach in this case. No firing Gary Kubiak and then hiring Bill Cowher to be your "interim coach" for the rest of the season to get around the rule.

    That should be the only way it doesn't come into play.
     
  17. TexansSeminole

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    Very true.

    What's more of a slap in the face, to act as if the interviewee has a shot or to tell him right off the bat that he's interviewing only because a minority candidate has to be interviewed?
     
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    The rule wasn't formed as a reaction to the exclusion of minority candidates from an interview. How does what your saying make logical sense? If black head coaching candidates are being excluded from interviews because of their skin color, why would they be hired after they are interviewed?

    The rule was formed to give the NFL a higher chance of having more black head coaches, because (a) people were getting upset about the low number of them and (b) it looks better.

    In reference to the bolded, the Rooney Rule was established in 2003. Dungy was hired in 1996. Green was hired in 1992.

    Honestly, the Rooney Rule is for looks IMO. Well kinda. It surely has given black candidates more opportunities but I don't think it is getting anybody hired. If the owner is racist and won't hire a guy cause of his skin color, an interview will not change that. That's the bottom line.

    It's different than affirmative action in that affirmative action requires the hiring of a specific gender/race. This rule simply requires the interview. Pretty large difference.
     

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