Jacoby Jones #2 WR?

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  1. RipTraxx

    RipTraxx Free Agent

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    We're all aware of 'coach speak' and Kubes could very likely be saying these things to boost his confidence...

    However, how many of you think this is a likely scenario?
     
  2. Thorn

    Thorn Dirty Old Man

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    JJ is not Walter, they need a route runner with good hands as the number 2 reciever. If JJ is really that improved, he will get more plays, but he wouldn't be number 2. Not in Kubiac's offense.
     
  3. rmartin65

    rmartin65 I'm Score

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    I think JJ serves one more year as the number 3. Walter is getting paid like a 2, and he is a very reliable 2. Until J proves to me his hands and route running ability, he stays number 3.
     
  4. Goldensilence

    Goldensilence hipster elite

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    I'm not saying they're going to be interchangeable but, it wouldn't surprise me to see them more in a 2a and 2b sort of situation if Jones can continue to make big plays in the passing game. Other than AJ we don't have speed in our top 4 that plays consistently.
     
  5. Goatcheese

    Goatcheese Nightmare Over

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    I definitely think he has something to prove before we start talking about him as unseating Walter as a starter. He has started to show the potential to do it though. JJ was 5th in the NFL among WRs catching 77.1% of all passes targeted at him. He's right behind Walter at 77.9%.

    For reference David Anderson was 12th @ 73.1% and AJ was 28th at 66.4%(to be fair he also drew more double teams and had more bad passes forced to him).
     
  6. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    I think if Jacoby really puts it all together, the team will run three wideouts more often than not. KW's blocking is pretty invaluable.
     
  7. DiehardChris

    DiehardChris You betcha!

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    You know, I do think it's a realistic possibility that JJ takes the next step sooner than many of us thought. He's looked really good in the practices I've seen.
     
  8. beerlover

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    during the actual season injurys seem to dictate starting reps more than anything, if Jacoby can stay healthy I would say he has an excellent chance to make the transition to becoming the #2.
     


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    This! KW is asked to block down on DE's a lot. Don't know if JJ can handle that part of it nearly as well.
     
  10. thunderkyss

    thunderkyss Salem Poor

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    I think Jacoby is a play-maker, and KDub is not. I'd like to get as many play-makers on the field as possible at all times. But KDub is dependable, and clutch, so I don't know if I would want to take him off the field too often. I'm thinking JJ will be our new slot reciever, and like mentioned earlier it would be more of a 2a 2b thing.
     
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  11. Rey

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    We use three wideouts a lot...

    I'm not really worried about who the #2 receiver is. Both Jacoby and Walter will get a bunch of tick and will probably be played in differnt sets depending on the situations and match-ups.
     
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  12. The Pencil Neck

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    One of the things I thought was interesting last year was when they showed the SF Niner's Defensive Coordinator's wrist band where he had notes written and different receiver numbers and packages and things. He had 12 written very large with a circle around it.

    JJ is turning into a playmaker. If he can keep his head on straight, he's going to have a lot more balls thrown his way this season.

    But I can't see him unseating KW as #2 until he gets down and dirty with the blocking like KW does. I think KW is just too reliable working underneath for him to lose his spot.

    But.

    I could be wrong.
     
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  13. Number19

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    How well does JJ perform as a second level blocker? Walter has been described as almost being a second tight end in the running game.

    Kubiak wants to run the ball 30 times a game; this year it looks like we will have the personnel to finally see the full scope of Kubiak's offense.

    So, what is JJ's value in this scheme?

    edit: I see that Pencil Neck made the same analysis at the same time I was writing my comments.
     
  14. beerlover

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    to get the dogs off Andre, Jacoby will be facing less than double or top cb
     
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    I anticpate JJ having a probowl type season.
     
  16. steelbtexan

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    Depends on what Kubes wants. If he wants reliable KW is his man. If he wants explosive JJ is his man.

    The run blocking thing is a little overrated. KW is a great run blocker. But JJ isn't a bad run blocker. Plus with JJ in the game defenses are more spread out because they have to account for the speed of both AJ and JJ. Thereby opening up more running lanes for the RB's. IMHO
     
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    Jacoby reminds me of an '84 Alvin Harper with greater upside and better speed.
    Compare Michael Irvin w/ Alvin Harper to Andre Johnson w/ Jacoby Jones.


    In single coverage, the only question has been "is the play long enough" for him to get deep.
     
  18. Section516

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    Only problem with this is.. MS dosent have the cannon to bomb it super deep. Only knocks on him, durability and not a rocket. More than breaks even with the accuracy and decision making
     
  19. m5kwatts

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    The wide receiver position is more than just a hierarchy of 1-5, each wide out position has a specific role and specific duties to fulfill. Special skill-sets are required for each wide out spot.

    Our receiving core has settled into its specific roles very well and I don't think they're going to mess up the good thing we have going here just to force feed Jacoby as a #2 receiver. Its fine the way it is now.
     
  20. HOU-TEX

    HOU-TEX Ah, Football!

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    Dadgum, PN, do you have bionics or something?

    It's an interesting observation though. I went back and looked at previous games to that one and found he was only thrown 8 balls. But, what I did find is that 3 out of those 8 were TD's and 1 was a 44 yard reception. So yeah, I'd say he's a playmaker and we probably should find more ways to get him involved.
     

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