It's time for Bobby Bowden to go, isn't it?

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  1. TexansSeminole

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    Many would argue that it was time years ago. The question now is, will he step down this year or next year?

    That question has been raised a lot over the last two weeks. Local radio and newspapers have started to call for Bowden to retire at the end of the season. Every FSU fan I have spoken to supports that. But Bowden doesn't seem to want to go. He won't say when he plans to retire.

    If Jimbo isn't head coach by January 2011 the university owes him 5 million. But rumors are that Bowden is trying to raise as much to pay that off, and continue coaching.

    All the coaches outside of offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher are Bowden's guys. There are credible reports that linebackers coach Chuck Amato has punched and humiliated Jimbo Fisher on numerous occasions in front of players. Not only that but tight ends coach James Coley has reportedly punched defensive ends coach Jody Allen in the face. It's a bad situation.

    Amato was hired a few years ago by Bowden. He was hoping to be the next defensive coordinator when Mickey Andrews retires, but that hasn't happened. After Andrew's son died 2 years ago, it was reported that he wanted to retire, but was convinced once by Bowden and again by both Bowden and Fisher to stay. That's when the rivalry between Amato and Jimbo started. Jimbo knows the team is better off with Andrews than Amato, and Amato knows he will be gone once Jimbo takes over. Before the South Florida game, it was reported that Bowden was talking to some boosters on the phone and didn't get around to giving a pre-game speech. Jimbo tried to give that speech but Amato got in his face and said basically "how dare you, I am the associate head coach". Again, this has been mostly reported by local media (tomahawknation.com), and from people I know around the team and players. So instead of a pre-game speech, the players watch dysfunction among the coaches and go out on the field with no speech at all.

    On top of all his Bowden does no coaching at all. He says "that's not the head coach's job".

    As many have said "its time, enough is enough". Let Jimbo take over.

    The controversy has heated up now as big time FSU alum and chairman of the board of trustees at FSU has spoken out for change.

    http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=4531451
    http://nolesports.tallahassee.com/article/20091004/FSU03/91004034



    It's getting ugly, and it looks like Bowden won't be leaving happily, or on his preferred terms.
     
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    It's time. It was time a few years ago.
     
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    Bowden wants to be like JoePa...but he is never thought of like that. The man has done a lot but instead of just replacing him FSU should keep him on in some aspect within the athletic dept. This way he can continue to contribute just not directly in football. This would appease some of the his longtime alumni supporters. Privately I bet Bowden doesn't want to hang up coaching until he passes JoePa in wins and JoePa retires.
     
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    pretty sure Bowden and Paterno are going to keep coaching till they die

    there's just not really anything to do after retiring at their age. i'm pretty sure that's their thought, anyway
     
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    Wow. Interesting read.

    No wonder why they look like such a mess on the field.

    Chuck Amato....punching guys, wearing Oakley Blades....sounds like a classic d-bag from a John Hughes movie.
     
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    Lost some respect for Bowden with that sexiest remark he made and yeah..........it's BEEN time for him to step down.
     
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    http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=4537555&top

    Espn is reporting that Bowden will not step down this season. They got their information from a "source". From what I am hearing, they are wrong. Bowden met with T.K Wetherall today, and is also supposed to meet with T.K. and boosters tonight. They probably already had that meeting. I don't see how ESPN could already have this information. They state that Bobby's contract runs through 2010, but that's not accurate. His contract is a 1 year contract, with an option for 1 more year.

    From what I am reading/hearing Bowden has declined all offers for a retirement package that does not include Chuck Amato being hired as the defensive coordinator. The package is supposed to include monetary GIFTS. It's not like the university is trying to fire him.

    I think it's difficult for media members outside of the seminole nation to understand exactly how bad this football program is. The money that used to flow into the program is gone. Nobody wants to support this failing team, except the die hard fans of FSU and Bowden. That's just not enough. Even some of those people are saying "enough".

    We all respect and love Bobby Bowden. We appreciate what he has done. But you can't stick around forever if you aren't going to coach and you are going to hire "friends" that are cancers to the team.

    ESPN is basically saying "we hope he isn't pushed out, because it isn't the perfect story". Its easy for them to sit back and say to keep Bowden on until he wants to go because it doesn't matter to them if he stays. They aren't fans. They don't buy tickets to FSU games to watch a dysfunctional program disintegrate in front of their eyes. They don't bleed garnet and gold, they bleed good stories.

    You've got a situation where coaches are taking sides. Bowden has put a title on Amato that basically gives him more power than Jimbo Fisher, so Amato is using that title to sabotage Jimbo. Bowden is just sitting by and letting it happen because, a) he isn't confrontational and b) he obviously promised Amato the defensive coordinator job for at least 1 year.

    Ever since Mark Richt left, this program has been falling. Recruiting has dipped dramatically, mostly due to the uncertainty on the staff. Amato has brought in 1 recruit since he has been here and the guy sucks. He told Bowden that he didn't want to recruit the best LB in the nation this year, Jeff Luc, because he's "too big" for the system. Jimbo is the guy that brings all the top recruits in, even on defense. Greg Reid decomitted from Florida because of Jimbo Fisher. Bert Reed decomitted from Florida because of Jimbo Fisher. Jacobbi McDaniel and Nigel Bradham (5 star recruits) came to FSU for Jimbo Fisher. We've had 3 recruits decommit over the past 3 weeks. 2 of which were "100%" commitments.

    Jimbo hasn't even been allowed to chime in on who he wants. It was reported that Mushcamp was thinking about being the d-coordinator at FSU before he went to Texas because Jimbo coached with him. However, Bowden hired Amato and convinced Mickey Andrews to stay. His plan was obviously to promote Amato when he couldn't convince Mickey to stick around anymore. Bowden hired offensive line coach Rick Trickett who runs a ZBS with lighter lineman. That's not what Jimbo wanted. If you remember, Jimbo recruited big lineman at LSU. The lineman that play here are all 280-somthing pounds. We can't run inside at all. Trickett actually has done a good job of coaching, but its irrelevant because light lineman is not what Jimbo's offense entails. Jimbo has actually adapted quite well to it, but it still hurts us.

    This will end badly for FSU and Bobby. He won't leave unless he is pushed out, he has made that perfectly clear, and that's just not good for the university.

    When do you stop putting one man over a university? We have to give Jimbo Fisher a chance.
     
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