It's official: O'Brien is gone!

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  1. Marcus

    Marcus Ruthless pragmatist

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  2. EllisUnit

    EllisUnit Serving Koolaid

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    This is like those youtube videos that say "youtube has already deleted this video once, watch before they do it again"...... you watch about the first minute when you realize you've been had :bat:
     
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    I don't think it will happen in the OB case, but how often have you heard an Owner say "Our coach is doing a find job and look forward to next year", then the coach is fired the next week. An endorsement is usually the path to firing.
     
  5. 76Texan

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    True. Happens all the time.
     
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    Ask yourself this; "Is Rick Smith still the GM?". If the answer to that is "yes", then what ******* difference will a new head coach make?
     
  7. 76Texan

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    Get a coach with some balls.

    When Belichick got to Foxboro, he had the gut to play Brady over Bledsoe even when Bledsoe come back healthy.
     
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    What "guts"? They were winning. You don't screw with success.
    But don't take my word for it, just ask this year's Cowboys.
     
  9. PapaL

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    Takes some balls to bench your $72M QB and start the oft injured backup too.

    Aside from play calling, I have no issues w OBrien. Our team is tough and usually hangs with most teams...until the offense shits the bed that is; ref play calling.
     
  10. 76Texan

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    By all standards, Bledsoe was a success at the time of his injury.
    Pro Bowler in his third year.
    Led the team to the SB in his fourth.
    Youngest QB to reach 10K yard.
    30K yard and 136 TDs.
    Belichick was his third HC, and he was under his 4th OC.

    In case of Osweiler; he's not anywhere near success. It's just his contract.
     


  11. GoCoogs

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    You think Tom Savage is the next Tom Brady?
     
  12. 76Texan

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    No idea. It's simply that he's been showing to be a better QB than Osweiler. The base is not that high.

    IMO, Savage gives the Texans a better chance to complete against the better team.
     
  13. GoCoogs

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    I don't think it makes a difference either way.
     
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    Just a better feeling watching the game.
     
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    Only 8 days into the new year and we've already been rick-rolled.
     
  16. Texansphan

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    Precisely.
    No sane owner is going to fire a successful coach winning despite struggling to find an answer at the most important position on the team.
    O'Brien is tough, but the team seems to like him and these factors seem to be working with three out of three winning seasons and improving one more game each year.
    IF Osweiler keeps improving, next season could be quite interesting - get him another weapon in the backfield and an improved passing game + running game will make this team very dangerous next season.
     
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    Horse crap stats from a long time before the decision was made. Bledsoe was a sub 80 rating QB for years before he went down. Belichick was not Wiley Coyote on that move.
     
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    I would like to think so, if he could manage to stay on his feet long enough to get enough experience for me to find out. But now, I don't think that's ever gong to happen.

    I happen to like durable QBs, and that's a quality of Osweiler that I can't ignore.
     
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    And he's undefeated in playoff game starts. Unfortunately, the MVP voters can't take postseason accomplishments into consideration.
     
  20. thunderkyss

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    The thing to remember here is the "mutual parting of ways" that usually means the employee is not happy, wants to leave, & management isn't thrilled and would allow employee to leave.

    It's not that McNair was going to fire O'Brien. It's that O'Brien wanted to leave & McNair wasn't going to force him to stay.

    Savage looked more fluent in the offense. He looked more in sync with the receivers. He looked like he was already on the anticipation stage, where Osweiler is still in the WTF open stage.

    But Savage was still in the learning stage.

    I don't see him giving us a better chance to win & he made some of the same bone headed, should have been picked off throws. Yeah, he needs more playing time to see what he can be. After which he may be a much better option. But as is, there's very little difference between the two except Osweiler appears to be a tank by comparison.
     

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