HoustonianStuckinCali said:
First of all a QB's job at a pro day is to throw the ball effectively not post a fast 40 time. I think I can trust Sean's Salisbury an ex. QB instead of some unnamed scouts Chris Mortensen talks about (Who consequently is pulling for Jay Cutler). 49 out of 54 for passes in my book is getting it done. I really don't understand the comparison between Young and Vick. They're games are not even similar the only thing they have in common is a shared ethnic background and the fact that they are both great runners. Next Young's Forty time, have you ever seem him run, does he look fast like Vick, (no) but he's elusive and he runs very fluidly, making him a dual threat. He prepared himself which is obvious did you even see clips of him dropping back and hitting receivers before they came out of brakes (I know I did). I have never seen any draft prospect with as much scrutiny as Young. And don't give me the b.s (well he did it to himself). How? This Young man who had one of the best season's not just game's of any college Quarterback in history . (Remember Oklahoma State anyone). He also gives a great deal of his time off the field to community service he was one of eleven players named to the 2005 American Football Coaches Association Good Works Team for commitment to community service off the field. He's a leader, he has tremendous pose under pressure and he will in time be the greatest QB to ever play the game. People attack this guy because he will single handily change the game forever with his success which could have a detrimental economic impact on the game i.e. (The wavering fan base of the present day NBA) If you understand the demographics of America and understand which demographic is the quote on quote paying public and the importance of the Quarterback position in will all become clear. No longer will the
All- American drop back passer (Code Word) be able to excel in the league. The league will have to have a QB with precession passing as well as
athleticism (Code Word). That's why he draws so much scrutiny plane and simple. Wake up people these so called scouts are telling you not to believe your own eyes. I may not be a scout (part of the good old boy network) But I can tell you I have never seen anyone with the athletic talent, and all the intangibles that Young has. The only reason you knock him is because deep down inside you hate Young for playing the way he does and looking how he looks. I hate to be so blunt but someone had to say it. I know this post may cause some criticism but if you've heard of Occam's Razor the simplest explanation usually is the correct one. It just stands to reason the most scrutinized Quarterbacks in the league McNabb, Vick, Brooks, Cullpeper all seem to share one thing in common and it's not the fact they were all in the NFC at one time.
I was with you until about the second half of your post. The simple explanation as to why people aren't reserving him the automatic HOF spot that you ascribe to him is:
The guy has bad mechanics, hasn't played a pro offense, and hasn't taken a snap in the NFL yet.
You on the other hand provide the infinitely more complex conspiracy theory which - if I read correctly - is that Vince Young is black and thus people everywhere want to see him fail because of it.
Brooks is "scrutinized" because he flat out sucks (and it's been months since I've heard his name in the national press). Culpepper was scrutinized for sucking w/o Randy Moss this year and because he is [was] the de facto leader of a team caught with their collective pants down on a blow-n-BJs party boat. Vick because he was hyped just about to the level that VY is and has yet to demonstrate any real consistency in the league, and McNabb because he played with T.O, and QB/WR controversies are the rage. As for whitey, record-setting P. Manning came under fire this year and last after yet another sham of a playoff loss, guys like Kyle Boller and Joey Harrington don't have a lot of friends in the world right now, Eli Manning in NY last year, and maybe we should ask Ryan Leaf what he's up to these days? And do I need to talk about David Carr and the word 'scrutiny?'
Does Vince Young receive undue scrutiny? IMO yes. So do a bunch of other people who may or may not share the skin color. VY's performance at the Rose Bowl made him a star among stars: deal with it. When you are on top yes, people will take their shots, and some of them may even have closet racial motivations for doing so. But the press taking shots at the top dog is nothing new, and it certainly isn't limited to "people of color." Look around Washington these days if you think nationally-publicized witch hunts and sensationalistic reporting are just for non-whites. What's more, to talk as if the guy cannot be questioned or to speak of his success as guaranteed is every bit as foolish as some of these other little stories that the press won't let die (Wonderlic score, forgetting the suit, no Combine workout, slow 40, etc.).
Welcome to the MB, but don't expect that kind of argument to fly here. I for one am tired of the stigma that can be associated with questioning anyone not white about virtually anything, of people pointing fingers and crying racist when the exact same questions would be asked of a white guy with Young's exact game and same off-field decisions, displays, etc. It's America and you've got a right to believe that if it's what helps you sleep at night, but don't expect it to go uncriticized when you air it.
Young does not particularly deserve a lot of the flak he has caught, but it is the price of stardom. And I am sure his low-to-mid first round contract will be of some comfort to him as he laughs it off all the way to the bank.
