Is the Secondary fixed?

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Is the Secondary Fixed?

  1. It's even worse than it was last year.

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  2. It's better than last year but it's still not good.

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  3. It's better than last year and needs work but should be fine for this season.

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  4. It's better than last year and will make the rest of the defense better.

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  5. OMG BEST SECONDARY EVER!

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  6. I'm too scared to have a take so I'll just choose this option.

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  1. House of Pain

    House of Pain Knee-jerkless

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    We on TT, love to say how terrible is the OL and how all the OL coaches should be tared, feathered, and publicly shamed, but what about the secondary as whole?

    I know some of you really wanted HB and wanted to keep KJax, but with the changes, what say you? Better? Worse? About the same?

    I think that secondary is better than last year and should be okay this season. I think improvements to the physical makeup of this group will help as a whole. Probably will need to draft another CB next year after we draft a pass rusher.
     
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    Not seeing any improvement at this point.
     
  3. JB

    JB Old Curmudgeon

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    The ability to cover TE's should be improved
     
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  4. Fred

    Fred Hall of Fame

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    Lost HB and KJax (not counting Kevin Johnson). Added a bunch of "maybe, don't know, hopefully, probably not". So maybe, but I don't know. I'm hopeful its improved - but seriously, probably not.
     
  5. Texansballer74

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    I jumped the gun last offseason, thinking, well very confident after certain addition to the secondary. Oh how I was wrong. So I will play the wait and see game on this one.
     
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    Kevin Johnson was the most important cog that failed last season. Bless his heart... he was supposed to be the kind of guy you can leave on an island giving you flexibility with how you use you Safeties & LBs.

    But he got hurt & Sharice Wright ain't that guy. Kareem Jackson, bless his heart, ain't that guy.

    & when you don't have that guy, you've got to have smart safeties. Mathieu, bless his heart, ain't that guy. Maybe Reid will grow into that guy.

    Bradley Roby might be that guy. He didn't look like it last year, so I'm told.

    I like KJax as a small safety, but I think his coverage skills are lacking. I used to defend him, but he hasn't developed into a top corner in this league.

    I liked Body Calhoun in Cleveland. Not a top CB either, but solid.
     
  7. banned1976

    banned1976 American

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    Zero depth in the secondary could rear its ugly head this year. The Texans needed to do a whole lot more for the secondary this offseason. MHO is that the Texans will need to win some shootouts in order to win more than 8 games because the secondary is going to get torched.

    I believe the secondary is slightly worse than it was last year. Joseph is a year older, Roby is inconsistent, Gipson is ok, nothing special. And the rookie has a lot of work to do.
     
  8. Seegara

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  9. Wolf6151

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    Let's hope they have a great pass rush cause this secondary is going to be burnt toast.
     
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    The secondary just became a much bigger question mark. I have no idea if it is better or worse or just different. On paper, I'd say it is about equal, but I haven't followed the other players and it is a question of fit and scheme. Our secondary had three main problems last year:

    1. allowed a ton of short, quick completions - part of this was a scheme thing, since we gave the opposing guys a ton of cushion because...
    2. Deep ball could hurt us. KJax is great, but he ain't great at defending when his back is to the QB. JoJo is getting up there in age.
    3. TEs killed us. None of our safeties or LBs could really cover them.

    Maybe all of that has improved? Maybe we will play some more press coverage, because our safeties are better in coverage? Maybe we added some speed? Maybe we finally got that safety that can cover TEs? Maybe we will see a ton more missed tackles and easy completions... This area is just as difficult if not more to evaluate than the OL.
     


  11. steelbtexan

    steelbtexan Hall of Fame

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    You would have to be an idiot to depend on Kevin Johnson.

    How many seasons has he played 16 games and he wasn't the guy you are describing when healthy. #Busty
     
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    If they can cover a TE next yr the secondary will have improved,
     
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    Roby
    Gipson
    Boddy-Calhoun
    Addae

    Cautiously optimistic.
     
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    Love the Gipson/Addae additions, I think the S position will be upgraded next yr.
     
  15. Texansballer74

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    He showed great potential before the injuries started mounting up.
     
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  16. steelbtexan

    steelbtexan Hall of Fame

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    Potential means you haven't done it and depending on a constantly injured players is fools gold and turned out (Predictably) to be a foolish decision.
     
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  17. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    Jermaine Kelly has been a ghost in Texans reports............like he never existed.
     
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  18. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    How did KJax come into the discussion?
     
  19. infantrycak

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    Improvement is judged from the prior.
     
  20. LikeMike

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    I was talking about our problems last season - KJax was one of the players, that had a big problem with defending the deep ball and he is a player that was replaced on the roster by Roby. That's why I highlighted him. He was part of this specific problem and he is gone. Does that mean we will be better at defending the deep ball now with Roby? I have no idea. But KJax brought several other good traits to the team, like great tackling that may be missed now.

    He was just one player I used to show, how difficult it is to evaluate, if this position is now fixed...
     

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