Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by thunderkyss, Apr 8, 2019.
Nobody was talking overall as HC. Purely talking about OL/QB protection.
Yeah I wasn't talking about years ago
I think he meant as Texans
I didn't realize Kubiak won a SB with Texans, which is what I was talking about.
What was Kubiak's record in the playoffs with the Texans?
With the Texans I believe 61-64 and 2-2 in the post season
Gary Kubiak Texans Record
In my opinion you should judge a Head Coach by his complete body of work not cherry pick good or bad times.
Case in point. If you judge Belichick by his record at Cleveland alone both Kubiak & O'Brian are better coaches than he is.
Bill Belichick Browns Record
No cherry picking
Texans only record is apples to apples comparison.
They both had the same GM until last yr.
BTW, Belichick is the guy who got the Browns/Ravens started heading towards a SB win.
No one is comparing Kubiak overall (who took a SB team back to the SB) to OB overall. And throwing in BB is non-sensical
People who do this lose credibility
There are plenty of reasons to not like BOB.
But comparing BOB to Kubiak (They are basically mediocre HC's) only means this guy like his koolaid in maroon flavors only.
If you do overall as mws did, yeah.
Non-maroon guys see it more clearly
I never offered an opinion on who was mediocre or not. You asked for their head coaching record so I posted it.
But to give my opinion:
I don't think Kubiak was a good head coach. But I do think he is a much better offensive mind than O'Brian will ever live to be and if I'm stuck with either Kubiak or O'Brian calling the plays and running the offense I'll take Kubiak every time.
Since neither OB or Kubes play or coach OL, why are we talking about their records? I ((*&^^%$#@@!@$%^&*(()*&^^%%^$$%%^&*())_(_())(*&*^&%^& hate the off-season.
Kubiak is a better offensive mind, but OB is a better HC. Give me OB as HC and Kubiak as OC
You do remember how long it took some to quit talking about David Carr? It will not stop with regular season.
More I think about it the more I believe BoB is ultimately his own worse enemy and his management style, not coaching but management, is pretty much exactly what you see from any first time manager. Yes, yes he was a coach in college but this is the NFL and its his first gig as an NFL HC. For that reason he seems to feel like he has to do everything himself and nothing will be done right unless he does it himself. I've seen it more times than I can count from first time managers and usually it takes a higher up sitting them down and explaining that they can't wear all the hats and they have to give up trying to control every detail.
If I had one big knock against the McNair's its that they haven't done that and instead have let him micromanage the offense. They should have made him hire an OC 2 years ago. Best advice I ever got my first time as a manager was don't try to know everything about everything, just learn something about everything then surround yourself with people that know everything about one thing. Its a big part of BBs success, he is a good HC but a big part of that is he gets the very best coaches to work under him that he can.
How is Obrien a better head coach again? I mean in year 5 dude was still making the same exact rookie HC mistakes. Niether coaches are top notch but come on, Obrien is not the better HC.
I don't need a disclaimer; OB sucks.
I agree with you.
Jimmy Johnson/Belichick disagree with you.
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