Is Schaub injury prone?

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  1. gtexan02

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    I keep hearing this, but I don't know how I feel about it.

    On the one hand, he's missed a lot of time. So its easy to call him injury prone.

    On the other hand, whose fault are the injuries?
    Are they freak accidents?
    Are they fault of cheap and dirty DL trying to hurt him? (Haynesworth + Allen)
    Are they because he doesn't know how to take or avoid hits?

    Everyone says that he's injury prone because Carr took even more hits and stayed in the game, but lets not forget that Carr reverted to the fetal position an opposing defender broke through our line. If Schaub "took a hit" like Carr did, I'm sure he'd be fine and we'd be even more pissed. Lets also not forget that Schaub took 2 hits to his knee and stayed in the game for the rest of the half with a torn MCL.

    So what do you think?
     
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    I have actually been thinking about this quite a bit. It bugs me when fans get on a player for being "fragile." I promise you that if 96% of the posters here took the hits Schaub has taken, they would be injured also. Helmet to the knee, ala Jared Allen, results in an injury.

    Injuries happen, it has been highly unfortunate that Schaub has missed so much time in his 2 seasons here. Who or what to blame? I don't know. But, I do know that I do not like it when the fans blame the player.

    I have had several serious injuries, so maybe I am more sympathetic than most. I once went to an orthopedic specialist to find out if there was something wrong with me for having so many broken bones. He had me list what had caused the breaks (mostly horseback riding injuries) and told me that my only problem was participating in high risk sports.

    Football is a high risk sport, it is pretty much a miracle that anyone survives injury free to play an extended career.
     
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    We are not getting paid to play a kids game. Brett Farve has played 15 years and hasn't missed one game. Carr played on those years here and seemed to stay on the field.

    Some players can't seem to stay healthy and Schaub is one of those players. So yes to answer your question, Schaub is injury prone. He was injured in college with a shoulder injury and for the past 2 seasons he can't seem to stay of the field.

    Someone needs to buy him a gallon of milk!!
     
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    He deserves the label. I agree that it isn't fair, but if you miss the number of games he has missed the past two seasons, he should be considered injury prone - whether it is a result of a "clean" hit, illegal hit or just bad luck.
     
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    That is some odd logic. I bet you would call someone who was shot injury prone, as well right?
     
  7. Ole Miss Texan

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    I don't think he's injury prone or fragile. I do wonder why he gets hit so often and why they are always really hard hits. If you're going to fault Matt with anything regarding this, I would say he doesn't know how to take a hit or doesn't know how to avoid the hard hits. It's incredible how hard he gets hit compared to most other QB's so that's why I'm leaning towards that thought.
     
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    It's just a flesh wound!
     


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    Well said, man.

    I suppose it comes down to the definition of "injury prone". But, at the end of the day, Schaub seems to be in position to be hit hard quite a bit of the time. Is that his fault? Well, he could release the ball sooner or throw it away, or have better situational awareness in the pocket, I guess.

    Not to compare anyone to Favre (the dude is beyond comparison, really), but I saw a piece on him awhile back pertaining to what he does after a handoff or pass. He runs backwards so that 21 players are all in front of him. He deliberately puts some distance between himself and where the hits are happening downfield. It is a survival instinct that has obviously served him well. Can players learn this? Or is it just part of a QB's DNA? idonno:
     
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    Injury prone is subjective.

    The fact is that he has missed 1/3 or so of the games he's been a Texan. This is a pattern, but he's only been here two years. His fault or not, a third year of the same pattern would be significant to me.
     
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    I remember getting flack when talking about Dom Davis, but the reality is that whether its a player's fault or not showing up and participating in a large part of the battle. It not totally fair especially when you see the questionable hit, but at the end of the day a player has to play.
     
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    TMac and Yao are injury prone. I'm not sure if Schaub is quite there yet.
     
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    He does seem like Mr. Glass sometimes. [​IMG]
     
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    2 Seasons as a starter and 2 seasons with major injuries to miss a lot of time during the season. What else do you need to be sure of?
     
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    He is not taking half the beating Carr took during his tenure here. It has always amazed me how that kid stayed upright (and is able to walk) after his disasterous stint here.
     
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    Is Schaub injury prone? Dunno on that one
    Is he fragile? YES!
     
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    Just dealing strickly with the data, yeah, he seems to be injury prone. But he has taken a lot of cheap shots. I used to be such a Sage supporter, and against Schaub, but now, seems I might have had a few things back asswards. Such is football. I think before it's all over with, we'll end up drafting a high round QB in 2010. Or, God forbid, making another trade for one. We'll see. I've predicted so much crap that didn't even come close I don't even think my cat believes me anymore.
     
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    Yeah. However, he has been the victim of some pretty harsh cheapshots. I mean there have been 3 different players in the past two years that have been FINED BY THE LEAGUE for the severity of their cheapshots on Schaub.

    How many shots of that magnitude has Favre received in the past 2 years? I mean I remember Carr getting sacked a lot, but I don't remember how many of them were directly for the knee, or helmet-to-helmet jobs, but I'm guessing he might of had as many as with his stint with the Texans as Schaub does now.

    But yeah, that guy really can't take a good shot. He'll fall apart. I am happy that he lasted for as long as he did this year. Last year he made it to what? Week 6?
     
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    Carr took plenty of hits in 5 years and repeatedly got up. Many more than Matt has. I am amazed that he survived as well as he did behind that line.

    Yeah, Matt's injury prone. Probably the most injury prone QB I've seen.
     
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    Matt is fragile, but this latest injury was just a chicken shit play on Jared Allen's part. I really like the guy and hope he can become a successful player on this team. It seems to me he has a price on his head or something, both times he's been injured they were over the top shots that seemed to have some purpose behind them.
     

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