Irony......

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  1. thunderkyss

    thunderkyss Salem Poor

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    .... remember the arguments against Vince Young??

    He'd need 4 years to develop.....

    Can't read an NFL defense......

    Can't take a snap from under center....

    Balls will be batted down because of his side arm delivery...

    Not very accurate.....

    Just thought it was kind of Ironic... wouldn't you think??
     
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    Alanis Morissette is that you ?
    :shades:
     
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    ironic? more like moronic.
     
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    His biggest supporters in the media were saying he would be a project and needed to sit. (McClain, Justice, Lord).
     
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    I am a Longhorn, and I love Vince as much as anyone. I thought he would succeed in the NFL, but even I thought it would be better if he sat a year.
     
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    OK....... Irony

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    You see, I think it's Ironic, that the main arguments against drafting Vince Young were as stated above. We didn't want to wait for our QB to overcome those defieciencies in his game, so we stuck with David Carr. & by sticking with David Carr, we are having to wait for our QB to overcome those QB defieciencies we wanted to avoid in the first place.

    It doesn't matter what Vince can/can't do. It doesn't matter if Vince sits for a year, or two, or none.....

    the point is that the things we wanted to avoid........... we end up having to endure anyway.
     
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    Worst of all, is enduring the endless whining of Vince Young fans.
     
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    He had minus 14 yards passing in the 2nd half Sunday. Led his team to 98 yards of total offense, 5 first downs for the game, 13 total yards in the 2nd half. He was 0-6 passing with a sack on 3rd down for the game, 5 of their 8 possessions weren't longer than 4 plays, a sixth possession was 5 plays.

    Maybe it IS taking time to develop.
     


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    Yea, that's true. I think we (and by we I mean Bob McNair) didn't want to draft him in the first place because we were going to let him play another year or two to see if he could turn it around.
     
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    Are we talking about David(the 5 year starter) against Oakland(a team playing for nothing but pride)??

    Or Vince Young(the rookie) against Jacksonville(a team trying to get into the playoffss)??
     
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    You see, I think it's Ironic, that the main arguments against drafting Vince Young were as stated above. We didn't want to wait for our QB to overcome those defieciencies in his game, so we stuck with David Carr. & by sticking with David Carr, we are having to wait for our QB to overcome those QB defieciencies we wanted to avoid in the first place.

    It doesn't matter what Vince can/can't do. It doesn't matter if Vince sits for a year, or two, or none.....

    the point is that the things we wanted to avoid........... we end up having to endure anyway.[/QUOTE]

    It was a great point and pretty funny. But if that's is what we all thought vince would be doing. wouldn't you rather another player with the pick instead of using your 1st pick do something that carr will be doing? now we have balls batted down and a DE. lol
     
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    I like our DE.

    I really have no problem that we passed on Vince..... I'd just like to convert a few more Carr homers, so we can move on, & fix this team.
     
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    :ouch:.......OUCH!<--------:loser
     
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    young still needs plenty of time to develop. he's still a run-first QB right now.
     
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    Stats are stats, there for everyone to interrupt however they wish. I'm certainly not a stat geek and I absolutely know that stats do not tell the whole story.

    I just know that David Carr's minus 5 yards passing got thrown around here a whole lot. Then when somone throws a not so favorable stat out there for Young, all of a sudden stats are for losers. Okily dokily..
     
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    If Vince were a baseball player ... he'd be hitting ... 250 with 25 hrs 105 rbi's ... batting 4th . While it would'nt seem like much ... he would have 15 hits to put his team ahead from the 7th on and 3 walkoff HRs .

    Anybody want to translate Carr's .
     
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    I think the difference is that Carr played poorly and throwing around the -5 yards stat was for the "ummmph" factor...Basically to make your message more powerful.....

    Cleary using stats don't show how well or poorly a player played all the time, but in that case....well.....they did.....
     
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    no need for a stat-sheet. young still relies on his legs more than his arm beyond the 2nd read. still young, still developing though. those are the facts.
     
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    Stats are just that, stats. A QB can go 12 for 29 for 118 yards with 2 picks and still get the win. Shoot, David went -5 and the Texans got the W. Bottom line is when were the completions made, when it was 3rd down and it was converted into a 1st. Those numbers are never put out there, so stats don't tell everything. Now they can tell alot of how a team did, but regardless of what they show, it doesn't tell the whole picture.
     
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    Just see Morgan Ensberg's stats last year. Carr with his completion %, Ensberg with hios OBP
     

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