Interesting Peter King comment about Cowher

Discussion in 'Texans Talk' started by keyser, Dec 20, 2010.

  1. keyser

    keyser Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2006
    Messages:
    1,355
    Likes Received:
    209
    Buried in Peter King's MMQB column this week (in item 6 on the last page) was this line:
    Peter King seems to have more wrong predictions than right ones, but sometimes he does have some inside information. Earlier in the column he also says that Cowher won't go to Carolina (he lives in Raleigh, a few hours from Charlotte), since Carolina won't pay enough.
     
  2. DX-TEX

    DX-TEX Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2010
    Messages:
    3,127
    Likes Received:
    382
    I want two weeks from now to get here so we can finally get some damn closure either way.
     
    SheTexan likes this.
  3. texanchris

    texanchris Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    28
    Cowhers wish list is miami and New York also, we have to hope both of those team do pretty good so they dont fire their coaches. Would love for cowher to come here.
     
  4. GuerillaBlack

    GuerillaBlack Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2006
    Messages:
    9,217
    Likes Received:
    622
    Location:
    Montrose
    Miami probably won't fire Sparano. He made it to the playoffs two years ago, and I believe they are still fighting for a spot. That's with their horrible QB situation. As long as the Giants make the playoffs, I think Coughlin is fine. The team is 9-5, and lucky for them, the Saints lost yesterday, too.
     
  5. HoustonFrog

    HoustonFrog Dallas Frog

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    Messages:
    12,421
    Likes Received:
    785
    Location:
    Dallas
    Why wouldn't this be attractive to Cowher?

    You have an offense that can be whatever you want in my opinion. He can keep some assts and keep the blocking scheme or I'm a firm believer that Arain would be good in most systems. He gets yards after the hit and has great lean. I'm sure he would be used more than he is now. You have a Qb that can work play action when the running game is clicking. I think part of Schaub's issues this year are more a product of him being forced to do too much. The mistakes become magnified. He does have issues with ball control at times burt I think with AJ and limiting the throws you would get more of a gameplan like we saw in the first Colts game. He would have to take a look at the line and see what is in place but he has the skill.

    Defensively they can put in what they want. It isn't like the D is screaming with talent where you have to stick with guys. Mario could even be bumped inside more if they wanted.

    Overall this is way more attractive than Carolina, with no talent and the others mentioned aren't firing coaches.
     
  6. Brisco_County

    Brisco_County Texans worthy

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2009
    Messages:
    2,635
    Likes Received:
    346
    Location:
    Austin
    The first two on that "wish list" are smoke. Everyone knows Coughlin isn't getting fired, so the Giants aren't worth even a mention. Miami doesn't have a stable QB situation, which was a condition Cowher previously said was necessary. The reason those teams are listed is to put the team he's really counting on, Houston, down a couple of notches. It's important to not list Houston as #1 or #2 because he doesn't want to lose bargaining leverage by seeming too eager, and he wants to be somewhat respectful to the current coach.

    It's funny, every time there's "leak" to the media about Cowher's intentions, there's a new team thrown into the mix-- except Houston, which is always mentioned.
     
  7. ChampionTexan

    ChampionTexan Site Contributor

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2007
    Messages:
    5,501
    Likes Received:
    705
    If Cowher were to end up here (or if anybody besides Kubiak is the HC next year), I really hope to see an approach to the offense similar to Mike Tomlin's approach to the defense when he took over the Steelers. He was a 4-3 guy, and Tampa Two guy, but realized the Steelers D didn't need a overhaul, and let LeBeau continue to run the 3-4. In fact, he took the opportunity to learn and expand his knowledge base. I don't think that we need to keep Dennison (although of everyone we've currently got, he's probably the one I wouldn't hate keeping), but I do think any new head coach should find a way to leave the core of what we have on offense in place and gut the defense. Granted, Cowher's got much more of a resume than Tomlin did, but the fact he's a defensive guy by background could make it more palatable to him. Oh yeah - Cowher's background with special teams could be very useful too. Joe's been great, but it time for a new ST coach next season.

    I still say that my biggest concern about Cowher is that he's gonna demand total control, and while it may be an improvement over what we have now, I can't think of a single consistently successful NFL franchise - with the glaring and obvious exception of the Patriots - who's done it without a clear delineation between front office and coaching staff. You can have the coach higher in the pecking order, but don't have the GM or personnel folks directly - or indirectly - report to the HC. It's the single biggest problem we have now, and while Cowher or another HC may make the situation better or more bearable, in my mind it's not treating the cause - just one of the more prominent symptoms.
     
  8. MFG16

    MFG16 Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2009
    Messages:
    267
    Likes Received:
    21
    Location:
    Houston, Tx
    Thats a good point about the leaks to the media. New York has always come up though, and I wouldn't rush to the conclusion that Coughlin wont get fired. Giving up a 21 point lead in 6 minutes isn't exactly a job saver, especially with the new york media. Cowher did make NY his first choice, and if the giants ever wanted to make a move at HC the time would be now.
     


  9. MojoX

    MojoX Veteran

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2004
    Messages:
    387
    Likes Received:
    19
    Not saying that Cowher is not interested, but if a sports writer was gonna make up a rumor or speculate, it makes total sense to include the Texans. Defensive coach for underachieving offensive team.

    I love the 3-4 defense and Cowher is one of my favorite coaches, but I am not gonna let the rumor mill get my hopes up one way or the other until McNair makes his move.
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2010
  10. Hookem Horns

    Hookem Horns That Server Guy Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    7,667
    Likes Received:
    1,090
    I wouldn't bank on that. Bob McNair doesn't own the Giants. Giants ownership were embarrassed yesterday. The Giants were up 31-10 with less than 8 minutes to go in that game and they lost in regulation. That game cost them the NFC East division and if they lose to Green Bay on the road next week they probably won't make the playoffs. If the Giants don't make the playoffs Coughlin will probably be dismissed.

    As it looks for me personally, there's a good chance Cowher will be coaching a team I root for next season.
     
  11. bckey

    bckey Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2004
    Messages:
    2,335
    Likes Received:
    151
    This is the concern I have also. I want Kubiak fired regardless but I'm not so sure I would replace him with Cowher if he will only come as a coach/gm combination. I might be inclined to look elsewhere if he wants that much control. I do think that Cowher has the personality and coaching style that would be an exact match for what this team needs.
     
  12. texanchris

    texanchris Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    28
    what if Cowher is just using Houston as leverage so that he gets the coaching job in New York. To be honest i dont see him coming here and i dont know who i would want as the head coach if Cowher doesn't come to Houston.
     
  13. disaacks3

    disaacks3 Site Contributor

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2004
    Messages:
    11,290
    Likes Received:
    911
    Location:
    Spring, TX
    ??? There has to be an opening there first for that to even be considered. Last I looked, they were looking at a playoff spot and we were 5-9.
     
  14. texanchris

    texanchris Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2010
    Messages:
    197
    Likes Received:
    28
    exactly, they play the Packers who might get Aaron Rodgers back and the redskins who looked pretty good yesterday. They lose that Packers game and they will probably be out of the play-offs. New York was embarrassed that they lost in regulation when they had 31-10 lead. If they do fire Coughlin which is likely then Cowher would have to choose between the Giants who have alot of talent on both sides of the ball and Jerome Bettis said hes always wanted to coach there. Its either that or Houston where it might take some time to rebuild and we have yet to make the play-offs in our existence.
     
  15. beerlover

    beerlover Site Contributor

    Joined:
    May 1, 2004
    Messages:
    12,983
    Likes Received:
    548
    Jim Harbaugh would be a better hire than Cowher. He already runs the same system @ Stanford. could retain the majority of staff including Kubiak as OC. Despite being a former QB he is a defensive minded coach, known as Captain Comeback for a reason. His attitude alone would have gotten Texans into the playoffs @ 10-6.
     
  16. otisbean

    otisbean All Pro

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2007
    Messages:
    596
    Likes Received:
    51
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Would love to see Harbaugh. Put me with the crew that's scaredof giving any coach total control. That hasn't worked out real well in the past
     
  17. Section516

    Section516 Warrior

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2009
    Messages:
    1,329
    Likes Received:
    139
    Still would need a GM with Harbaugh. Or do you keep Smith?
     
  18. utahmark

    utahmark markbeth

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2004
    Messages:
    2,006
    Likes Received:
    126
    Location:
    utah
    This is who I want.
     
  19. DX-TEX

    DX-TEX Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2010
    Messages:
    3,127
    Likes Received:
    382
    No, We needa proven head coach. No more rolling the dice on OC/DC's with good promise. I want an NFL caliber HC who is proven.
     
  20. Texan4Ever

    Texan4Ever Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2009
    Messages:
    4,143
    Likes Received:
    257
    Location:
    The Great State of Texas

    *cough cough...Jon Gruden...cough cough*
     

Share This Page