Injury Report: Texans vs. Jags

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

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    It isn't Wednesday yet, so no formal Injury Report, but I'll present some preliminary concerns.

    Jackson didn't practice today.....rib injury.

    A new development of questionable significance.....but still a concern........Watt did not practice today.......back soreness (may be insignificant, but this is how Cody and Foster, like many disc problems, first presented......hopefully, though, this time it will resolve as simple back muscle spasms)
     
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    I'm never the one that wants to "phone it in" on a crap season but in an instance like this I think we should treat this extremely serious. No reason to risk anything with our "face of the franchise" over a 2-8 season just because.

    Bench him. Let him get 100% and play him when he is. We need to baby the **** out of him for risk of next season.

    Just my two cents.
     
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    Agree. We don't need a repeat of Adrian Peterson 2011 when he tore his ACL in the last week of a lost season.
     
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    The fans should bring out Dem paper Bags LOL
     
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    It worked out pretty well for Peterson next season...
     
  6. CloakNNNdagger

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    The Jags look as banged up as us.



    Yesterday's Injury Report (pertinent changes in red):

    HOUSTON TEXANS
    Wednesday (11/20/13)

    DID NOT PARTICIPATE
    WR DeAndre Hopkins Illness (the flu's going around Houston big time)
    CB Kareem Jackson Ribs
    CB Elbert Mack Hamstring
    ILB Darryl Sharpton Foot/Toe/Back
    G Wade Smith Knee
    S Jawanza Starling Hamstring
    DE J.J. Watt Back

    LIMITED PARTICIPATION
    T Duane Brown Illness
    ILB Joe Mays Knee
    ILB Mike Mohamed Hamstring
    C Chris Myers Throat (interesting sometimes dangerous injury if severe enough...someone must have gotten under his mask)
    ILB Jeff Tarpinian Groin
    RB Ben Tate Ribs/Ankle/Toe

    FULL PARTICIPATION
    TE Ryan Griffin Concussion
    G/C Ben Jones Ankle
    S Shiloh Keo Achilles/Hamstring
    T Derek Newton Knee/Elbow

    JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

    Wednesday (11/20/13)
    DID NOT PARTICIPATE
    DE Jason Babin Not Injury Related
    WR Mike Brown Shoulder
    WR Stephen Burton Concussion
    LB Geno Hayes Knee
    DT Abry Jones Back
    RB Maurice Jones-Drew Not Injury Related
    DT Sen'Derrick Marks Not Injury Related
    C Brad Meester Not Injury Related
    DT Roy Miller Not Injury Related

    LIMITED PARTICIPATION
    CB Will Blackmon Shoulder
    CB Dwayne Gratz Hip
    S Winston Guy Hamstring
    TE Danny Noble Hamstring
    LB Paul Posluszny Concussion
    G/C Will Rackley Concussion
    WR Cecil Shorts Groin
    WR Kerry Taylor Toe
    WR Stephen Williams Achilles
     
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    Damn. If Watt goes down with a back injury, Houston NFL teams are just pure snakebit and I'll have to find another team to root for. That makes me sad.
     
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    Jackson, Elbert Mack, Sharpton, and Jawanza still have not practiced this week.....all certainly questionable for Sunday.

    Duane Brown has joined Hopkins on the Illness list.....hope this is not the beginning of a locker room spread.

    Watt was "limited" with his back.............during non-contact practice.:kitten:
     


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    we can still win the divison at 8-8 and colts dont even have to lose out ..... LOL
     
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    FWIW, from HT.com


    Again keep in mind, Thursday is not a contact practice.

    Today, Watt completed a full sweat-pouring walk-through, making him probable for Sunday.

    Of course, the real test of his back will be when he collides with a Jaguar.

    Jackson is definitely OUT.

    It looks that Tate will be again dealing with a Turf toe like last year.......we'll have to see how this affects his performance. It is likely that this could have more noticeable affect than his cracked ribs did.

    HOUSTON TEXANS

    Friday (11/22/13)
    OUT
    CB Kareem Jackson (DNP) Ribs
    CB Elbert Mack (DNP) Hamstring
    S Jawanza Starling (DNP) Hamstring

    QUESTIONABLE
    ILB Mike Mohamed (Limited) Hamstring
    ILB Darryl Sharpton (Limited) Foot/Toe/Back
    ILB Jeff Tarpinian (Limited) Groin

    PROBABLE
    T Duane Brown (Full) Illness
    TE Ryan Griffin (Full) Concussion
    WR DeAndre Hopkins (Full) Illness
    G/C Ben Jones (Full) Ankle
    S Shiloh Keo (Full) Achilles/Hamstring
    ILB Joe Mays (Full) Knee
    C Chris Myers (Full) Throat
    T Derek Newton (Full) Knee/Elbow
    G Wade Smith (Limited) Knee
    RB Ben Tate (Limited) Ribs/Ankle/Toe
    DE J.J. Watt (Full) Back
    G Cody White (Full) Neck

    JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

    Friday (11/22/13)
    OUT
    WR Stephen Burton (DNP) Concussion
    WR Stephen Williams (DNP) Achilles

    QUESTIONABLE
    WR Mike Brown (Limited) Shoulder
    CB Will Blackmon (DNP) Shoulder
    LB Geno Hayes (Limited) Knee

    PROBABLE
    CB Dwayne Gratz (Full) Hip
    S Winston Guy (Limited) Hamstring
    DT Abry Jones (Limited) Back
    DT Roy Miller (Limited) Shoulder
    TE Danny Noble (Full) Hamstring
    LB Paul Posluszny (Full) Concussion
    G/C Will Rackley (Full) Concussion
    WR Cecil Shorts (Limited) Groin
    WR Kerry Taylor (Limited) Toe

    STATUS NOT APPLICABLE

    DE Jason Babin (Full) Not Injury Related
    RB Maurice Jones-Drew (Full) Not Injury Related
    DT Sen'Derrick Marks (Full) Not Injury Related
    C Brad Meester (Full) Not Injury Related
     
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    KJ out with a rib injury? Ben Tate says "what's up?"
     
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    KJ says "not your stats or fantasy points".

    It's amazing what a contract year does for pain tolerance.
     
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    I don't want to take anything away from Tate. That's tough regardless of why he's doing it.

    I also heard today that KJ's is the very top rib(#1). It runs under the collar bone. They said its not possible to to pad extra like Tate. Maybe CND can elaborate it.

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    Isolated 1st rib fractures are very uncommon because of the "protected" position of this rib. It is actually located behind the clavicle and upper sternum (breast bone), and not easily exposed to trauma as are the other ribs (See the diagram immediately below).

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    You see these type of injuries in front on high impact auto accidents.........and they are usually accompanied by other (many times massive) injuries such as clavicular fractures, shoulder fractures, other rib fractures, major vascular tears, and lung injuries. There have only been a handfull of isolated 1st rib fractures reported in athletes. Some of these are actually not caused by direct impact, but occur as a stress fracture over time with excessive muscle traction on the rib or a sudden violent contraction of the attached.......in the case of the 1st rib, this would most likely be the scalenus muscle (the diagonal muscle attaching to the top of the 1st rib in the diagram below).

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    Fortunately, the athlete form of this injury is virtually never accompanied by the dreaded major vascular and lung injuries. This type of injury in the athlete is another example of a "perfect storm".......a very focused force delivered to a very small area that circumvents the protection of this structure in order for it to occur, and thus reinjury is unlikely. However, it is quite painful with any movement of the shoulder or pressure applied to the sternum. This can be expected to be a 4-6 week recovery, possibly longer if there are other structures involved that involved that are not being revealed.
     
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    whoops, wrong thread
     
  19. Scooter

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    roethlisburger also fractured his first rib didnt he? i seem to remember reading that it's a very dangerous injury.
     
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    Save KJ for next year. Screw the team this year. That ain't tanking, that's smart football.
     

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