Importance of a premier safety

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  1. gtexan02

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    I was replying to the Taylor Mays thread, when I came across something I find interesting:

    The 4 remaining playoff teams have 4 of the top 5 safeties in the NFL roaming around back there. The remaining #5, probably Chris Hope, was on a team just knockced out.

    1. Ed Reed
    2. Troy Polamalu
    3. Brian Dawkins
    4. Adrian Wilson

    A really talented safety allows a defense to do a lot of really, really good things in both the run game and passing game. And thats something we've been missing the last few years
     
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    Bob Sanders isn't on your top 5 safety list?
     
  3. gtexan02

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    Not this year. He only played in 5 or 6 games?
     
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    Maybe next year when he's healthy again. Not this past year.
     
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    That also helps the argument though. Sanders was out for awhile and the team slid substantially. Things might have been a little different for the Colts had Sanders been healthy all year.

    Th only problem now is that Mays isn't coming out, so who will be the top safeties? I was saying William Moore would be a good selection, but will he get picked up before 15?
     
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    No way Moore gets picked before 15. I'm not that high on Moore. He would be a good player to have and all, but I'm thinking that we go LB right now considering what I think will be available at 15 unless Maabin is there.
     
  7. Polo

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    I think in any given year you can point to the four teams playing for the conference championship and find a position that they are all strong at.

    I don't think having a premiere safety is any more important than having a premiere (insert any position here)
     
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    I agree with that good safety play is very important, however we should not reach on players in the draft or FA.

    There are some good safeties in this draft with 2nd or 3rd round grades.
     


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    There was only one LB drafted in the 1st round last year, Keith Rivers. But in previous years there have been some good ones like Willis, Beason, Hawk, Timmons and you can almost count Ryans. I wouldn't be against taking a good LB.
     
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    Check out Curry and Muleuga. Seminole posted a bunch of Curry's highlights in another thread. Curry looks spectacular.
     
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    I don't consider a safety a top priority here with the Texans - it's all about
    developing a real pass rush once and for all for the Texans. Whatever that takes, get it done then the rest of the D will fall into place and perform better.
     
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    Its hard to generate a pass rush when opposing defenses can dink and dunk there way around the field or throw quick hitters out to WRs on quick outs and slants. If we had good safeties who could actually be respnosible for picking up deep threats, we could afford to keep our CBs actually close to the LOS instead of requiring they give a 10 yard cushion
     
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    I agree with this. I'm incredulous of the strength of connection between safety and playoff success. As Polo pointed out, I think this is a procrustean fallacy - take the divisional playoff teams out of any year and you can find a common link that may or may not be the reason they made it that far. When evaluating the importance of a premier safety, I think the crucial indicator of success is the premier part. Safeties don't make defenses great, great players make defenses great (regardless of position).
     
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    both safeties need to be replaced, need help in run support and how often have we seen a safety help a CB on a deep ball
     
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    good safety play allow teams to get exotic with blitz packages and that is our problem we can't deploy that many packages.
     
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    Wilson played very well and has been the best safety we've ever had.
     
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    We get one good year out of our guys. Coleman had that one good year, then Demps, now Wilson
     
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    Coleman was old and demps was never any good.
     
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    Good cornerback play does more for a defense's ability to blitz than safety play does.

    When you blitz, more times than not you have to go man on the outside. We have never had good enough CB play to do this consistently.
     
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    ?? Not sure what you're remembering...

    Coleman was 29 during the 2003 season when he had 70 tackles and 7 INTs. I'd call that a pretty good season

    Demps last year was voted as a pro-bowl alternate
     

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