If we are going to get Wade as DC...

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  1. RagingBull

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    Why in the He77 did it not happen about 8 weeks ago when it could have actually made a difference?
     
  2. Thorn

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    Because nobody the He77 knew we'd be this bad at that time.
     
  3. BetaV1

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    Basically this. A complete change in defensive philosophy cannot be done overnight either. Even if Wade came in shortly after his Dallas release, he wouldn't have been able to make any noteworthy improvement.
     
  4. CloakNNNdagger

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    Granted, but we certainly had a He77 of a hint.:rake:
     
  5. Thorn

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    Yep. The leagues worst defense was already showing it's face. But when we were 4-2, I don't think anyone would have guessed it would have fallen apart the way it did. But, whatever. Predicting the NFL is like predicting the weather, good frigging luck with that.
     
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    Because "we were on the right track", remember?:gamer:
     
  7. sakebomb

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    I think most of the fans knew we were this bad. Unfortunately our coaches are dumb asses.
     
  8. DocBar

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    I think that would've been a bad idea, even in hindsight. I'm not a big fan of coaching changes in the middle of the season. Besides, we started off crappy last season and ended up with a defense that most of us liked at the end of the year. Better to make an official change after the season is officially over.
    It would be great if we could get Phillips in NOW so he can start evaluating talent, but not have him anywhere near the sidelines or meetings. 8 weeks ago that would've been cool. Or 7. Or 6. You get the point.
     


  9. 4Texans

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    I agree with Doc. Besides, if all the talk is true, then Wade has probably spent the last week or so watching film of the Texans and has already started to evaluate talent to prepare for next season. I have a feeling that Wade will have Total Control of the Defense and have the final say on talent and scheme. McNair doesn't really have a choice if he wants to look good in this mess, and there is no where to go but "Up" with the D. The whole organization has shown that they have no clue when it coms to the D side of the ball.
     
  10. Lucky

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    OK, so Frank Bush is the fall guy. He'll take all of the blame so Coach Teflon can keep his job and Bottom Line Bob won't have to breakout his checkbook for Cowher. I get it.

    But, why rush to hire Bum's son as DC? He has limited experience with the 4-3. With the impending lockout, there will be little time to switch to the 3-4 he's more accustomed to. Not to mention, Ricky the Boy Genius will have little time to secure the personnel needed for a 3-4 conversion.

    Why not wait and interview other potential DCs on the market? John Fox has just been let go. Marvin Lewis may not be retained by the Bengals. If Coughlin loses his job in New York, Perry Fewell could be on the market. All of these guys have run successful 4-3 defenses.

    Wait...none of these guys are Friends of Kubiak. There's no chance that they will even get a courtesy call, much less an interview. Only FOBs need apply. SOS.

    Hey Coach Teflon, if you want to give a semblance of an actual coaching search, I know of another FOB that's available. Richard Smith will no longer be the linebacker coach for the Carolina Panthers after today.
     
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    Yep, none of those alternative (and better fit) names you mentioned have Denver on their resumes either...
     
  12. thunderkyss

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    When in the hell have you ever seen a coach hired mid-season?
     
  13. Mr. White

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    I think it may not take all that long to make the conversion. Especially with a defense this bad.

    Capers took a mediocre 4-3 to a really good 3-4 without hardy missing a beat in GB. I think Wade could get similar results.

    At least that's what I'm telling myself. I'm trying to see a half full glass nowadays.
     
  14. Lucky

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    It's possible. SonofaBum may be the best man willing to take the job. My point is that the Texans aren't even going to try to go outside their inbred circle. Again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
     
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    On 610 they were saying that each team that Wade went in as DC, the team ended up going to the playoffs that first year after not going the year before without him. What teams had to go from a 4-3 to a 3-4? Anyone know?
     
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    Totall guess but maybe the Falcons, Chargers, and Cowboys. I know the Falcons switched back to a 4-3 a few years ago after I think they tried the 3-4, I dunno for sure.
     
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    Please keep in mind that Phillips has done OK with hybrid type D's before. Good, bad or indifferent, it SHOULD be interesting. On a somewhat positive note, at least McNair is making a gesture of an attempt at placating the fan base by hiring the son of the most beloved coach in Houston history. I'm not saying...I'm just saying....
     
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    Broncos, Bills, Falcons, Cowboys... they all ran a 3-4 when Phillips was there.
     
  19. 76Texan

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    I've said before many times, I'd rather have Kubiak as an OC and somebody with Defensive credential as a HC.
    I would love to have Cowher, but I think Wade Phillips is a good hire if they decide to give Kubiak another chance.
    Kubiak has not impressed me so far but it's good to have continuity on the offense.
     
  20. ArlingtonTexan

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    I have no idea why McNair refuses to see that he nor Kubiak have a wide enough net on football friends.
     

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