If we’re below .500 by mid season, and our O-line is still terrible...

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  1. Mangler

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    Would the Head Coach have enough sense to shut Watson down for the rest season? That is, if Watson is getting pounded out there just like he did in 2018 and we don’t catch all those lucky breaks we caught in 2018?

    Or, do you guys think he’ll continue to let Watson go out there and get killed? Because “he can turn it around because he’s a winner?” -O’Brien (Extremely likely)

    Let’s say our record is 2-6 going into bye week.
     
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    He will let Watson start as long as he can stand... be silly not to after last year
     
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    Judging from the past couple years, when the team is behind, O'Brien will let Watson get killed in an attempt to come back.
     
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    What’s sillier is trying to salvage a season that is going nowhere fast, and get our franchise quarterback destroyed both physically and mentally. But maybe that’s what it would take for Cal to finally say he’s seen enough of this (long) failed Patriots 2.0 experiment.
     
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    I know of no coach that would sit their franchise QB because of the O-line

    It don't matter if fans have given the season up
     
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    That is true. Man, I feel so bad for Watson. Hopefully they get him some decent protection in this draft or via UDFA. He’s a good kid.

    By the way, the thread is not about benching him because of the o-line. It’s about let’s say a 2-6 record going into the bye, with our O-line performing terribly not giving Watson any time and him getting beat up repeatedly. Still, it probably wouldn’t make abdifference...sad.
     
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    It would help if OB would help... moving the pocket, quicker routes, decent running game etc.
     
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    At best, we see players come up with mystery injuries or even real ones that they might play through during the last month or so where a QB might "sit"
     
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    Yeah, last 1/4 of season maybe... not mid-point
     
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    It's called Job security/self preservation.. Why the hell would Bill O'Brien bench the one guy who can miraculously save his job? Reason why even Mike Shanahan put his own future above and risked Robert Griffin's future when everyone and their grandmother knew the guy was injured and shouldn't be playing.. then the knee finally gave. Chuck Pagano did the same crap with Andrew Luck.. desperation is a stinky cologne.

    Bill O'Brien won't even think about benching Watson (if he can drag himself out on the field), hell even if mathematically eliminated he most likely will still play him.

    So to answer the O.P.s question.. No I don't think O'Brien has enough sense, but in a win or go league he isn't alone.
     
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    BOB did play Watson with a punctured lung and 3 broken ribs last yr, so there's your answer. I too feel bad for Watson.

    If they dont get the OL fixed this yr I would fire all of them BOB/Gaine/The Janitor etc... Watson deserves better, better as in not getting sacked 62 times and getting the crap beaten out of him on a weekly basis better.
     
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    Plus, haven't we seen this story already play out? If you go back and watch the game against the Seahawks Watson's rookie season, I think that's where Watson injured his knee.. Instead of giving his knee time to heal and protecting the future of the franchise (and this was a guy he didn't even want to start as a rookie), the Texans kept him active and he ended up tearing the compromised knee on non contact in a following practice. That right there already answers the question for me.. Hell the guy still played last year when he couldn't even board a plane.
     
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    Damn.. pinch/poke/coke.
     
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    It will definitely help if he has a full receiver corp as well.
    Last season was a perfect storm of things to go wrong for Watson.
    It will also help if Watson himself can look for more dink and dunks instead of the big play quite so often.
     
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    Also this can and has been expanded past Watson..

    Should Watt have been playing with so many damn core/back injuries?.. yet they let him.

    Should we have taken the shortcut by slicing Andre's Hamstring thus allowing him to return to the field instead of shutting him down? Andre Johnson while still good was never quite the same player after that. This team has always historically done a horrible job at protecting their players and it predates O'Brien's tenure.
     
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    Yeah, much of that was on Watson... kid is learning hopefully
     
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    Texans medical staff is second to many imo
     
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    OB has a bad habit of rushing players back. Foster was another example. It was unfortunate the whole offense revolved ariund him at the time.
    Sure, it's nice to get wins for the team but you got to look to the future as well. Perhaps he doesn't think he has one here unless he gets those wins.
     
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    Watson right now is Steve Young playing behind Tampa Bay's OL.
     
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    Hell I don’t even remember so much as changing the snap count. I’m sure we did occasionally but does anyone remember us doing it with the intention of drawing the defense off sides? He does nothing scheme wise to help the offense except to leave TEs or extra OT in to block. He has no imagination.
     

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