If Toby Gerhart Were Black, He'd Go First Round

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  1. eriadoc

    eriadoc Texan-American

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    According to one NFL scout, Toby Gerhart would be a first rounder if he were just black.

    The sentiment isn't isolated to this scout, of course.

    And then there's my favorite quote from Gerhart:

     
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    Lol what a strange question to respond to. I wonder if theres anything to it.

    Why did he only mention white players? hmmmmmmmmm
     
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    eriadoc Texan-American

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    Maybe because they're the LBs he faced that went to the Pro Bowl as rookies.
     
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    Awesome! Sounds like we can get a 1st round player for the bargain price of a 2nd round pick!
     
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    yes, but no matter where he goes, he'll get better endorsements because he's white, so it all works out
     
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    Hell yeah if Gerhart was black and a much better player he could go in round 1.

    Now if he was the same talent that he is now, and black, maybe undrafted FA.
     
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    finally white people get a break in life
     
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    Hmmmm, its a Gerhart thread and yet rmartin65 isn't in it....
     
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    That's not what the scout is asserting. He's saying exact same player, but black.
     
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    Yeah it was my lame attempt at dry humor.

    I dont think Gerhart is as good as everyone else. I think he is a 3rd round talent. So obviously I dont think him being black would make him a first round talent.

    :texflag:
     
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    A story on race is a great traffic driver. Thankfully, the NFL is a meritocracy and Gerhart will have his day to prove himself. However, his agent is insane for letting this story publish and put the specter of race on this soon to be rookie as he enters a new locker room.

    IMHO, the only parties that get value out of this story is the publisher and those that enjoy finger pointing.
     
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    Maybe Jimmy the Greek really was on to something....LOL
     
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    Yeah, but other people think he just doesn't have 1st round talent.

    I think he does compare much more to Duckett than Steven Jackson. Now Duckett did get drafted in the 1st but he has been considered a bust. Heck Duckett got drafted higher than Jackson did and never looked as good as Jackson.
     
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    Well he did rack up yards and score TDs and I think that is special. We just might have enough ST players without Gerhart.
     
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    i know it sounds stupid but overall production in college just doesn't mean a whole lot. it's HOW they got the production. just getting the ball dozens and dozens of times a game and on the goalline doesn't mean anything in the NFL, where he'll have to take on more duties to stay on a roster. Gerhart really doesn't look like anything that special, and saying he'd be a first rounder if he were black is silly; if anything, being white has helped him out tremendously because he would've just been another black RB otherwise, and certainly wouldn't have been a Heisman finalist
     
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    I officially want him to be a Texan now.
     
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    Not concerned about ST. When I see highlight reels like - Link - I see a heavy runner primarily getting his big plays in a power blocking assigned hole scheme. Stanford's OL was pulling guards and creating giant holes. I think he needs to go to a team that is primarily power blocking. As the one guy above said, he has sufficient long speed but his initial burst is nothing to write home about. I just don't think he is particularly well suited to our system. The guys quoted above are also right that he gets straight up/head on hit way too much as well. When it is Pollard coming in to do that instead of some kid ending his football playing career at the college level things are going to look different.
     

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