Discussion in 'The National Football League' started by RT22, Jan 3, 2012.
I would love to see signs saying "Steel Luv Ya Blue!" What do you think?
I wouldn't... that is in the past.. this is an entirely different team. Support this team, remember that one.. but no need to keep living in the past..
No way...those demons need to stay buried...
Clever play on words. But, NO.
I am with Hobie and Mojo on this one.
Except we have a coach on this staff that was also a coach on that team.
Some of this city's greatest sports heroes come from that era, including Earl.
The Texans have lots of former Oilers as team ambassadors.
The franchise has adopted Houston's football history.
I don't believe in curses or karma. The Texans will win by their own merits and play, not because some fan(s) brought a sign that honors this city's football heritage.
I like the play on words. But, that's just me. I lived that history like many Houstonians.
I never, ever confuse "Luv Ya Blue" with the later demon-infested Run & Shoot version of the Oilers. I would consider a bunch of signs like this good mojo and not bad karma. I'd be fine without them too but I'd have to break out in a big grin if I saw one.
You know that crappy "Houston Oilers #1" song? For years I've wanted to see the Texans whip out a note-for-note copy with just the team name changed and play it only at Texans/Titans home games. I'd pay good money to see the closeup of Bud's visiting owners box when that came on the PA.
Run & Shoot Oilers can be hanging around as team ambassadors but I feel no particular affection for that version of the team. It's nice to see them again but that's about where it ends for me.
Luv Ya Blue Oilers are family.
How were the Run N Shoot Oilers any different to where they didn't represent "Luv Ya Blue"? They were the Oilers and those were probably the best years of their existence.
I've had the same thoughts for years Herv. I'm not sure why they haven't done that yet. I miss that song as hokey as it was.
I don't see how. Those were great Oilers years. THey just kept falling short, because they had Jack Pardee who was our version of Kubiak back then. Pardee sucked. The team was stacked though. As much as people want to hate on Bud and rightfully so, he did build a SB caliber team with a few years of those early 90's teams. They were built to win it all, but they couldn't close when it counted and Warren Moon was very INT prone in the clutch.
That past is part of Houston's heritage as a football city here. That past is what shaped the pride that many fans have here for Houston sports teams. Nothing wrong with holding onto that at all. We shouldn't only get to cherish the history of the last 9 years which were awful seasons. Sure, that will always be part of Houston's history in football, but so will those Oilers years and the many traditions that took place in the dome. Many of you may not have been a Houston sports fan your entire life and may have just picked up the Texans at some point. That's great and all, but many of us grew up in this town and that stuff holds a lot of weight in our blood from so many years of watching football in this town.
As much as I love the Texans, they still have not compared to my old memories in the dome every Sunday in the Bullpen. They will one day, but it was something special to remember and feel the madness in "The House Of Pain."
They just were. I felt one way about Bum's team and another about the ones that came later. That's my opinion and it will not change. Bum's teams accomplished more with less and the Run & Shoot Oilers underachieved regularly with one of the most talented rosters ever put together. One I like, the other I have great affection for.
I think they don't do it because they're not petty and malicious like I am and Bob McNair has no animosity towards Bud Adams like I do.
Accomplished less with more. Therein lies the reason for my not holding them in as high regard as I do Bum Phillips teams of the late 70's.
I don't recall Bum ever taking the team that far. Did he ever make it to the AFC championship game?? If not, than he never went further, because the Run N Shoot Oilers did make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs one or two seasons and were right there for the win, but they got Elway'd. No one could hardly stop that dude in the clutch back in the day though. Cleveland Browns fans are still hurting from what Elway did to them. Believe me, I still feel the "sting" from that game.
I don't see how you don't hold pride in the fact that we had guys like Munchack, Mathews, Childress and Moon on those teams. Those were 3 HOF's.
Uh...Bum took the Oilers to two straight AFC Championship games. I saw those Oilers as little kid but grew up with the Run and Shoot Oilers. I love them both the same. But Bum went further....alot further.
With a lot less.
I'm going to post this link here now to a very good interview with Bum Phillips. Let me just say that I believe that if Jack Pardee had been as good a coach as Bum Phillips the Houston Oilers would still be here and most likely have one or two of those beautiful rings we keep hearing about.
This is just a fantastic read: Bum Phillips Interview
I just wish the city had moved, like Cleveland, to keep the franchise name,records,etc with the Browns.
Old team...old demons. I loved the Oilers but they are the past. Keep it there. I will always have fond memories of them...except for the head pig himself.
This is a new team. No need to drag elements of the past into our new hometown team. Create something new and original...
Same city, many of the same fans, same demons. What's going on inside of me every time I sit down to watch a Texans game was initially formed watching the Oilers. Like many fans I bring the memory of every game I ever saw them play into every game I watch now for better or worse.
One of the things our "new hometown team" lacks is any element of the past. Bob McNair recognizes this and that's why you'll see former Oilers closely associated with the Texans. It's one of the things he's gotten right from early on.
"The BULL-RUSH Featuring The 'Mario DeSade' . "
I agree completely. Luv Ya Blue ignited a deep passion in this city. Two pep rallies of 70,000+ people after LOSING games??? I have never heard of other cities doing that for losing teams. That version of the Oilers was filled with characters. Coaches and players that still have a legacy in this city today. Heck, just the names Bum and Earl mean something because of Luv Ya Blue.
I loved the run & shoot Oilers, but you're right, it never ignited the same passion as Luv Ya Blue. It just didn't, regardless of how stacked with talent they were and how many playoff years they achieved. In the end, they are most remembered for one sad thing: 35-3.
C'mon, man, those back-to-back AFC Championship games vs. Pittsburgh Steelers are legend in this city. The Renfro catch that was negated??? The Oilers/Steelers playoff games were considered the two best teams in the league by many fans at the time. If the Steel Curtain wasn't so freakin' juiced at the time, perhaps history would have turned out different. But surprised that you did not know about these AFC Championship games. Bum's team did way more with less than Pardee's teams ever did.
I don't believe in demons. Nothing we do as fans has any impact on games short of 12th man stuff. If a sign like that ignites the passions in fans that built the House of Pain, then it actually helps.
As far as "new team / new and original"...let's be honest here. Nothing the Texans do is truly original. They are a corporate brand that borrowed elements from other teams. The first down chant has been done by the Chiefs for many years. The Bull Pen is simply our version of the Black Hole and Dawg Pound. Running out of the bull with fireworks was copied. The next time this franchise does something truly original will be the first time. It's just the nature of being the 32nd team in the league. They cut and pasted what works for other teams. No fault in using what has proven to work.
We will just have to respectfully agree to disagree about Houston's football history and how fans want to honor it.
I think my wife will make a shirt dedicated to "Steel Luv Ya Blue", too. I just need Herv to make me some graphics for it. I'll make him one, too.
Interesting..... My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention.
I'll see what I can come up with.
Man, I can't believe that I didn't know about that either. I wasn't born back then, but that is still no excuse. I didn't think they went that far. I still don't see how that can diminish the Run N Shoot Oilers though. They were great teams that just didn't win it all, but they had great characters and they were one of the most exciting teams in the league with that receiving core we had and some of those defenses. I think you're still feeling the sting of losing to Elway and the Bills and how Bud left shortly after those losses. I can understand that, but I still think those teams were epic Houston teams that should never be forgotten.
Any time people bring up curses and stuff like that in sports, I stop paying attention to them. That is stuff for the birds. The House Of Pain was real and it was serious.
My dad has this "Snake Stabler" shirt that he still wears with pride. It's practically yellow it's so old. He loves that shirt and is thinking about putting it into a glass frame. We also still have those Oiler glasses from the gas stations. They look brand new still. Those things were quality man.
Yeah, but does he have one of these...
You can get one for 30 bucks...
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