I Know It's a Bleacher Report, But..........

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  1. CloakNNNdagger

    CloakNNNdagger Site Contributor

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    the facts as presented seem to be there.........and there has to be at least a semblance of concern over the "dynamic duo's" future together, even from the most loyal and the most optomistic. There are, indeed, some interesting facts that are not commonly put together.

    BLEACHERREPORT: THE MATT AND ANDRE SHOW
     
  2. DX-TEX

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    Damn ESPN copying bleacher report!:kubepalm: :p

    Either way, I have been saying it in numerous threads today: the lack of WR depth is really starting to worry me.
     
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    I just dont think either of these guys know what the hell their talking about.

    I just cant see this team dropping off that bad. :homer:
     
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    I agree. On NFL Radio today they talked that losing Winston was the biggest loss by any team this year. ReallY? Guy can run block but his pass protection was pretty damn bad. Same way they throw losing Mario out there.

    No one else notice he didnt play 3/4's of the season?

    The WR thing does concern me greatly. I have friends who do keep up with the whole league and their concerns are the same as mine. Schaubs health and the WR depth.
     
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    Just now? I posted about my Kiddie Corner flashback fears with the WRs even before the draft.

    But it's still May. There's plenty of time for either some moves to get some more experienced guys in here OR time for us to get these kids up to speed.

    The thing is that WR is a position that frequently takes a few years to mature and develop. We've got some young talent there at WR. But it might not be ready fast enough.

    Now, the word is that KW played through injuries last year. I don't know how true that is. But if he could get back to the player he was in 2008 (heck, I'd even settle for the player he was in 2010), we'll be OK.

    But we also need our TE's to step up. We need OD and Casey to stay healthy. We need Garrett Graham to start producing.
     
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    Anything can happen. Schaub and Johnson's injury history is something to think about, but there's nothing we can do about that. You hope players can step up in case of injuries and certainly last year that was the case.
     
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    He makes okay points on Andre and Schaub, but when he starts babbling about the defense, that's when i stopped reading. These media people still think that Demeco and Mario were the centerpieces of our defense, so they must not have watched a single game of ours last season. That's ignorant at best.
     
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    When he said a full of new faces on defense, he pretty much proved he is grasping at straws.

    All I know is that defense dominated Baltimore in the playoffs, flat out dominated, how many sacks did they have? They lost Demeco and Allen. IMO Allen was only good at the deep pass, playing the run and the short stuff he was hardly sufficient. Kareem IMO is the better of the two, if he can just get better at locating the ball in deep patterns he would be completely solid. But on the run and short stuff Kareem was very good. You have to think Harris, Carmichael or one of the other guys can step in a replace what Allen brought to the table. Plus you have to trust that Wade will utilize Jackson's strengths and minimize his weaknesses.

    With Demeco, he only played 60% of the snaps and before Sharpton got hurt he was cutting into that. We are very thin at that position now, but Sharpton can definitely step in.

    Besides that you have Merciless, Crick plus a nice young core of players. Only Antonio is older, everyone else you expect to get better or at least stay the same. This defense will most likely be top 5 or 10 at the very worst. They got better as the year went on. And with Cushing, Barwin, Reed, Watt, Quinn, and Jackson, You have to think that this group as a whole is better than they were last year.

    People can point to the WR position which deeply concerns me, along with health, but when it comes to defense I think you would have to be smoking some of the good to think that the D cannot carry this team.
     
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    It's not so much just the loss of the player, rather the drop off from the guy who was cut/traded/not re-signed to the guy who's replacing him. Regardless of what you think about Winston's talents, it's point of fact that the guy who's replacing him is highly capable. In that way, the loss of Winston is not only not the biggest loss of any team in the NFL, it's not the biggest loss on our own offensive line.

    Obviously, though, the team is doomed if we don't have our starting QB and #1 WR. That's almost tautological.
     
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    He quit researching when he got to the defense, so his conclusion isn't valid.

    Good stats on Schaub and Andre, but the real determining factors for this season will be Schaub's recovery, then WR's #2b and #3 developing a relationship with him. It makes for a challenging September/October, but these things are on track to sort themselves out over 16 games. It seems foolish to jump to concluding "regression," especially considering how every sports writer who doesn't follow the team regularly seems completely incapable of understanding them.
     
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    So after a very good season in which neither Andre or Matt played a big role due to injuries, the writer thinks we're going to turn into the Cleveland Browns this year...because Andre and Matt might get injured again.

    Amazing logic.

    The problem with high expectations is that there is a whole lot of room for failure. Unless we make a deep play-off run, this year will not be viewed as a step forward, and it's pretty damn hard to make a deep play-off run.
    So it is not unlikely that we will fall short of that goal. But to say it is likely that we are going to regress from last season based on something that ALREADY HAPPENED last year is just idiotic. We overcame AJ and Matt going down and had very good results.
    There is a very real threat that injuries will again derail our SuperBowl run, but to say we're going to become a bad to average team because of a set of circumstances we already overcame last season on the way to a good year is just nonsensical.
     
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  16. False Start

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    Exactly! Dude is trash.
     
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    They won games last year with Yates & Jacoby Jones in place of Schaub & AJ.

    The defense has likely gotten better since and they have added quality depth at WR ....


    Hard for me to believe that they fall to .500 even under the worst of circumstances.

    My biggest concern is the OL , specifically the right side and depth behind the starters.
     
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    I tend to agree with all you have posted except that I think our "new" right OL will pleasantly surprise many doubters. That said, I do still share your concern about our depth.
     
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    Im not concerned about Butler at RT as he filled in very well for Brown when he was suspended.


    Im not so sure Antoine Caldwell holds off Brandon Brooks at RG .... Caldwell wasnt very good when Briesel was out ....


    The big question becomes , who's the swing tackle now that Butler is the starter .... that was a huge luxury to have a guy like that as depth. Behind Brown and Butler they have Newton and Gardner. Having one of those two protect Schaubs blind side is a scarry thought.
     

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