How would you grade Mario Williams thus far?

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How would you grade Mario Williams

  1. A

    7 vote(s)
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  2. B

    80 vote(s)
    45.5%
  3. C

    76 vote(s)
    43.2%
  4. D

    12 vote(s)
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  5. F

    1 vote(s)
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  1. TexanSam

    TexanSam Hall of Fame

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    If you had to give him a grade what would it be? I would give him a B, maybe a C+. He wasn't good his first few games, but lately he's been improving. He did pressure Leftwich on Sunday a few times, but I'd still like to see him pressure the QB more often. Who'd a thunk he'd have more sacks at this point than Reggie Bush had TDs though? That shows you ESPN!
     
  2. AustinJB

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    I think I would give him a B- b/c he hasn't been spectacular, but he is showing continued improvement.

    He is improving game by game and if he continues to do so, he'll be a force. He's already making a few plays here and there and will only get better. That's all you can ask for in a rookie IMO.
     
  3. keyser

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    Right now, I think you'd have to give him a C. He hasn't been bad, overall, but he also hasn't done anything really spectacular yet. I don't think there's anything to make him stand out as more than an average DE so far. He clearly has a lot of potential, though, and he has been improving a lot, so I hope (and expect) that his "grade" will go up.
     
  4. ledzeppelin229

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    Put him around a C+, approaching a B though. By the end of the season he should be around a mid B I think as far as a rookie season goes. He's made a few nice plays, but the awareness and recognition still needs to improve. I also want to see a more effective rush move than just trying to bull rush everytime. His outside speed rush needs to be used more sparingly since most NFL OTs are just riding him out of the play, although I haven't noticed it as much as I did early on.
     
  5. Cruuuuuuuz

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    He's in elementary....so grades arent that important....
    I cant wait till he plays like he's in college!
     
  6. David23

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    I would give him a C+ but he is getting better as the season goes along. Could move up to a B soon.
     
  7. texasguy346

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    I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and grade him at about a B-. He's starting off slow like most rookies, but he does seem to be making progress as the game slows down for him. He's trusting his instincts more, and he's definately looked much better in the last two or three games than he did in the first three. He's had a few plays where he absolutely stonewalled the running back, and I think as he continues to grow and mature we'll see alot more of that type of play out of him. The main reason for the B- as opposed to a C+ is because of the amount of attention & pressure that's put on him. He's dealt with it well thus far, and I think that's represenative of his character. I look forward to seeing him develop further week after week.
     
  8. powerfuldragon

    powerfuldragon g'mornin to you

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    B- if he sacks Vince, B+
     


  9. phantom17

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    I give him a B- bcuz he still has a learning curve & he's shown improvements as the season goes on!I believe he will be a force in the not so distant future!!!:redtowel: :whip:
     
  10. Hulk75

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    Every game he looks better, needs more sacks, but that will come and I am not worried about it. Doing good with preasure, and needs to protect the backside more when the ball is ran away from him.
     
  11. Kaiser Toro

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    I voted a B but would rather have given a C+. Still needs to incorporate some moves and have a better balance of instinct and using his mind. It will come sooner than later if he would just stop bench pressing, running the 40 and vertical jumping. I hate workout warriors.
     
  12. kingh99

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    Dude disrupts. I stayed home and watched the first half on TV last Sunday. then I got down to the park and enjoyed the second half at the 50 yard line. That's the only cool thing about poor attendance. I can get front row seats for the price of my cheapies. anyway Mario scares QB's. They fall down when they see him barreling. He got great push in the Jags game in the first half. He was pushing his guy into the QB. Mario's going to be good. As good as Seymour? That would be awesome. Seymour was as important as the QB in those Patriot SB years.
     
  13. thunderkyss

    thunderkyss Salem Poor

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    I'm grading Mario as an A-

    Alot of the things being said is true, but we drafted Mario, not because he is an amazing pass rusher, but because he can be. & so far, everything I've seen shows me that he can.

    He plays almost every snap, without actually counting, I'd bet he plays considerably more snaps than every other player. He shows plenty of energy, none of this "takes off some plays" stuff we were hearing.

    He's definitely strong enough to bullrush everyone he's gone up against, and his speed is impressive........

    but he plays like a rookie, and pass rushing doesn't look like his specialty..... but, he is a rookie, and I think he can totally dominate the running game, and still provide adequate pressure on the QB.

    I think our game planning of rushing the QB on every down is hurting him more than anything.... we appear to play the QB first, and the run second, even against dominant running offenses like Washington, where too many times, we did exactly what the they wanted us to, leaving gaping holes in the middle of the line.

    I think we should get back to basics, back to what we were told we were going to do when we payed Weaver $12 million. Stop the run, then get after the QB. Ever since we drafted Mario, all we talked about was getting after the QB, and it shows.


    But I think Mario is doing great, and grades out as an A-....... our defensive coaching though grades much lower in my book.
     
  14. edo783

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    He is in the C+ to B- range IMO and as I had to pick B or C I gave him a B.
     
  15. jerek

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    I voted B because he is progressing well according to my expectations. I knew he would take time to adjust to the NFL and I think he is noticably improving with every outing right now.

    Soon enough he will be the beast that we all imagined him to be.
     
  16. HOU-TEX

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    I'm grading him a "C" at this time. IMO, he has progressed nicely from the beginning of the season and will continue to broaden his NFL intelligence.
     
  17. Texans Horror

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    I'm giving him a C, too. I'm grading him against Demeco, though, who I would give an A. It's not that Mario's doing a poor performance. He is causing disruption, and has some sacks and tackles. It's just that his performance is not accelerating as high as Demeco's, that's all. Both great players, though, and I think they will be a huge defensive machine in the NFL.
     
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  18. michaelm

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    I'll give him a C because, although I think he has played at a B level for a rookie, his ceiling is so much higher than any other rookie at his position.

    So, a B compared to normal rookies, but a C compared to where he should/could be... and will be.
     
  19. beerlover

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    a solid B because:

    one- he does not have a strong supporting cast around him on the D-Line so he can be focused on.
    two- just learning life in the NFL & speed of the game
    three- has played every game & not gotten hurt
    four- generally seems well liked and puts the team 1st without showing attitude
    five- has no off field character issues
    six- becoming more disruptive making big plays that will only increase intensity
    seven- tries everything the coaches experiment with him without complaint
    eight- as he improves the Texans defense seems to respond & play with better effort all around
    nine- looking forward (DRAFT) I see NO ONE who approaches his talent level, meaning Mario Williams is a unique talent
    ten- is learning in the NFL how to not take plays off showing a more consistant effort each & every play
     
  20. FirstTexansFan

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    I was afraid to grade him. He seems pretty big on TV, and if I said something bad, he may be a computer nerd with the ability to look up my IP address and come grade ME in person. I'll pass :)
     

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