How long do we ignore the obvious?

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  1. TK_Gamer

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    How long does KUBIAK get a free pass? you can look at the game film till yer blue in the face and you will still find as many bad play calls, or lack of play calls as you will find miscues from the texans players. this from kubiak whos promised us he would play to win. or "bring a winning attitude to the texans" Mr. Kubiak yer not doing that. we have showed the rest of the league we will not play to win so you dont need to score alot, just manage the clock and you will beat us.
     
  2. TexanSam

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    Well Kubiak isn't going to be fired and our offense has shown improvement this season. The non existent 2 minute offense is very odd. I don't know how many bad play calls Kubiak has done. You need to give some examples.
     
  3. FLYmeatwad

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    He's giving us the winning attitude, just not the wins. To me it seems he's got the balls to make challenges, unsuccessfully, but not the stones to call deep passes. But I don't think he's getting a free pass, this is obviously a much better team then last year and it seems that Kubes is doing a really nice job for the most part. He has us headed somewhere. To me that easy 4 game stretch we have coming up after the Jags will be the defining point of the season. If we start beating bad to middle of the road teams I'll be able to look forward to next year. The rookies will have time to grow and it should be a decent next year, unless they let go of Carr and start over.
     
  4. TK_Gamer

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    ok in this game alone:

    no 2 minute drill at the end of the half

    no deep routes for AJ when we need them

    calling time out on 2nd down assuring that if the giants get the first down they can run out the clock and win.

    calling short yardage and running plays when time is runining out and we need to score.

    and this is not just this game, you can just about repeat all of these in every game we have played this year. if you cant see it you arent watching the same games.
     
  5. FLYmeatwad

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    Well now the sack numbers are going way down, so if Kubiak realizes that he should start integrating mroe deep balls in to the play book. I've been puzzled by the lack of deep balls all year, so no argument there.
     
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    all I know is if Kubiak keeps this up all year, 1 of 2 things will happen, Carr will be gone after this season or Kubiak will be.
     
  7. FLYmeatwad

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    If we keep playing the way we have Kubiak will not go at the end of the season. I think that they have to keep Carr around unless there is a gaunteed better thing. If Gary changes to a rookie QB then his time in Houston may be short lived.
     
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    Unless you got a crystal ball dude, I don't see either of the two happening.
     


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    All Kubiak has done is steadily improve the team and all Carr has done is get better.
     
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    Man. That's it. I'm done with these boards. Too many morons. Adios.
     
  11. FLYmeatwad

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    I'd be more apt to agree with that, niehter makes much sense. You don't can a coach after year one and you don't get rid of a QB who has shown the potential that Carr has. Now they just need to work together to establish the deep ball. I wonder how much better we'd be with a healthy D.D.
     
  12. TK_Gamer

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    QB's success in this league is not rated that simply, to succeed in the NFL as a QB you must Lead your team to tuff victories. this includes coming from behind. end of the half 2 minute drill TD's. the deep pass at the opportune time, etc etc. and Kubiaks playcalling has virtuallly elliminated all of these possibilities.
     
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    What I find most upsetting is the fact that the breaks just do not go our way.

    The difference between the Texans and a good football team is that when push comes to shove, they shove the ball down the other team's throat.
    (Unrelated question: At what point does push come to shove?)

    It seems that when the Texans get into a situation where they need to perform, they fall apart. All they needed today was to not make a key mistake and they would win. Yet for us it seems the key mistake is a guarntee.

    Just sad when we beat ourselves. Half the games we have lost could have been victories absent certain key mistakes.
     
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    Jeez-us, fool, we're half way through his first season!
    Were you this tolerant our first year in the league?
    What did you expect-we'd be 8-0 at this point?
     
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    Even if we got in the endzone on that fumble I'm not sure we'd have won. The D just died toward the end.
     
  16. TK_Gamer

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    no I expect us to TRY to win football games. when your D makes a great stop and you get the ball back with almost 2 mins left in the half and you are ahead or behind you try to score. when you are down in the game with 3 mins to go you throw the football down the field not run draw plays and short passes. thats all I expect, that we TRY to win and show the other team we are not gonna lay down and take what they dish out.
     
  17. bah007

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    How did we not try to win?

    We just lost to one of the best teams in the league by only 4 points.

    If our defense had stopped New York after the fumble then we would have had a chance.

    Our offense was effective at the end of the game.
     
  18. TK_Gamer

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    did you even read my whole post?
     
  19. FLYmeatwad

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    I think that we would have had a better chance at winning the game if we stopped them after the fumble then if we scored and let their offense play.
     
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    Yea. Our short passing game was very effective toward the end.
     

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