How do you view the Texan starters?

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  1. Panther5407

    Panther5407 All Pro

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    This is how I think that the Texans D will work best in the upcoming season. Look forward to your thoughts.

    Coleman McCree


    Robinson Babin Wong Sharper Peek Glenn


    Robario Smith Seth Payne Gary Walker


    I would like to see Shantee Orr play more this season. He brought a lot of intensity. In my mind he could rotate with Peek or even Smith on the long pass situations.
     
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    Didnt come out the way i planned, i had it to were the names would be in the same spots as postion. So back line is safties, then its cb/ol/in/in/ol/cb and then the d line, just thought i clear that one up.
     
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    Absent injury or a lack of progress, the DL is set as you have it. For now the pencilled in LB's are Babin, Sharper, Foreman and Wong although Wong has been getting some work at ILB this week. Capers says that is preparing in case of injury--training camp will tell us if that is true or they think Peek is ready to start. There hasn't been a whisper of news about McCree working out at SS and given the reporting about Pitts' move to LG and Wong playing ILB some, doubt that McCree is getting tried out at SS.
     
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    Smith is a DT tackle, he is not going to switch with Orr.
     
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    Actually Smith is palying DE in the 3-4.
     
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    TEXANS84 Moderator Staff Member

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    McCree will be playing backup...Brown will not surrender the SS job. And Casserly said at the draft party that Brown will be playing next to Coleman in the secondary.
     
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    I just think that its odd that we bring in McCree to be an upgrade and now after half a season, hes going to be on the bench. You would think that he would be more active within the backfield of the Texans D.
     
  8. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    Why is that odd? You bring in players that you think will be better players than what you have. McCree was a better player than Stevens but why stop there? Bottom line is we picked him up off waivers. That means he could not stick to another teams roster. We all saw what happens to teams that do not have quality depth last year. We ended up 30th in defense.
     


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    Also, regarding the secondary... I imagine McCree will play in many nickel situations with Coleman sliding to the outside and probably Robinson moving to the slot receiver... So, McCree has value for us, even without injury issues, as he helps us dramatically upgrade the nickel defense. It sounds like Faggins would round out the dime defense. That secondary (Robinson, Glenn, Coleman, Faggins, McCree, Brown) has the potential to be a team strength. Defenses use nickel and/or dime packages almost as much as they do their base defense... So, you'll see McCree on the field plenty!
     
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    I can imagine McCree playing in the nickel packages but Marcus Brown will start at SS. Oh and about you starting LBs, I think Foreman will start this season out on the inside with Wong on the outside, though we might see Wong moveing inside and starting Peek later in the season.
     
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    Peek is an OLB. Foreman is an ILB. The only way Peek displaces Foreman is the domino theory--he bumps Wong to inside and Wong bumps Foreman to the bench.
     
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    I like it, but get a FB in there and get rid of a WR!, especially if you have Bruener in there. If Bruener is in the game, it should be I formation and pound it, with the occasional play-action pass.
     
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    I like the X's and O's look. Only thing I took real issue with was the TE spot, I see Miller still being the penciled in as the starter. How I expect that to translate is a "TE by committee" situation. Not sure that Wong will make the move to the inside quite yet...I would love it if that is the case because it would mean that Peek and Babin's skill progression is excellent.
     
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    We'll of course see plenty of formations on the offensive side of the ball, what I like in particular about his one is that it remains unpredictable, in terms of going run or pass. Replace Bruener w/ Miller and it's a sure fire passing formation, replace gaffney with Norris and you're showing run, in this case both options appear to be threatening--particularly in first down situations.
     
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    I see what your saying and i actully like the formation you could pass to AJ, Gaff, Or Corey also set up DD on a Draw play
     
  17. Vinny

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    Teams must have at least 7 have to be on the line of scrimmage. You can have more than 7 but all players who are eligible to catch a pass cannot have another player on the LOS outside of them for that is an illegal formation. In Clandestine's formation the TE would be eligible once he is put into motion. If AJ steps back and goes into motion then the TE is eligible also since he is the end player on the LOS. These rules are where the terms "tight end" and "split end" come from. The player caping the Tackle is an end. Either "tight" or "split" (out).
     
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    I thought 11 players had to be on the field first of all
     
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    He has 11. You just have to have at least 7 on the line of scrimmage.
     
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    Oh! sorry didnt scroll over and see the other plar, Im drunk Excuse me
     

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