How do the teams stack up?

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  1. WillisXPress

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    How do you rate each position...?

    QB: Texans, Carr has more experiance
    WR: Bills, Andre Johnson is the best overall, Moulds and evans are the better tandem, by alot.
    RB: Willis and DD are pretty equal, but that was based on last year when Willis was 85%
    TE: Wash
    OL: Bills, You have one of the few OL's that is worse than ours.

    DL: Bills, Our D is nasty
    LB: Bills, see above
    DB: Bills, see above
    ST: Bills, best in the league last year.
    K: Houston, anyone is better than Lindell
     
  2. I'd have to agree with that, but what do you think about the coaching? That comes into play a lot.
     
  3. gtexan02

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    I agree with most of that, but have some problems:
    TE: I dont know who your TE is, but Im sure he's better than our extra OL Bruener
    DB: Our DBs (Robinson, Bucchannon, and Coleman) are one of the best in the league. Plus i heard Clements is injured
    ST: Wash. with all the speed we have on returns now, this could be close.
     
  4. El Tejano

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    Remember our team had alot of INTs last year and are pretty stout throughout our depth.
     
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    Yeah and don't forget you lost Pat Williams on the DL and Jonas Jennings on the OL.
     
  6. tsip

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    IMO coaching will be the key in this game, with things like

    1) Game Plan
    2) Adjustments to game plan
    3) Motivation
    4) Ready to play/preparedness

    Whatever coach puts his players in the best posistion to use their strengths
    will have a team victory. This means exploiting the Bills weaknesses while
    featuring the Texans strength and vice versa for the Bills. Too, another
    key is going to be playing the game for 60 minutes. The Texans need to
    rattle Loseman from start to finish, be relentless-same for the Bills on Carr.
    When a team gets into the red zone--early or late--it needs to score TDs,
    something the Texans have been harping on since their existence.

    Both teams ended last season on a bad note, with the Bills unable to beat
    the Pittsburg subs for a playoff spot and the Texans unable to take it
    to the next level (.500) against the worse team in the league, the Browns.
    It will be a long day for whatever team carries that play over to this first
    game but--on the other hand--it could be very interesting if both teams
    come to play.
     
  7. LBC_Justin

    LBC_Justin All Pro

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    I agree with most of your post. I would change the following.
    TE: Bills....Texans are weak there.
    DB: Not fimilar with your DBs but ours are Damn good. Any(or All) three could make the pro bowl this year.
    ST: Wash......I know you guys are good but the Texans are STACKED at kick/punt return.
     
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    True, and some forced fumbles with Antwan along with Dunta's work, but the only thing is what did we do with the ball afterwards? We can get 5 INT's and 3FF's but if you don't turn that into 3-7 after... :brickwall
     


  9. WillisXPress

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    I didn't know yours either... Mark Campbell is our #1, he's good but underused... Tim Euhus is out with injury.

    Our DB's

    CB-Nate Clements (got dinged up, he will play)
    CB- Terrance McGee (Pro bowl returner, played well down the stretch last year, and in preseason)
    SS- lawyer Milloy (fear hitter, good run support)
    FS- Troy Vincent (his first full time year at safety, had the offseason to pick it up.
     
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    Good lord. Buffalo must have some terrible TE's for it to be a wash.
     
  11. WillisXPress

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    Not really, i just don't know much about you're guys, and our guys are just average... plus we have under used them in the past.
     
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  13. WillisXPress

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    4 1/2, thats a close game.

    The over under 39 1/2 is also attainable, but with us having a better D, and being at home on top of Losman playing conservativly I'd imagine that it will be under.... but who knows.
     
  14. ATX

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    I agree with some of your assessments, but you're off on some. Moulds and Evans are not better than Johnson and Gaffney or even Johnson and Bradford. Even if they are better, it's not by much, and definitely not alot. Our Oline isn't as bad as alot of people make it out to be. We're really good with run blocking, it has always been our pass blocking that has hurt us. As for RB, DD has been 85 percent the past 2 seasons and has gone over 1,00 yards there. His experience over Mcgahee is the difference.

    I'd say your defense is better as a whole, but our seondary is better than yours. As for special teams, you just never know. Just because it was good last year, doesn't mean it will be good this year. It's called adjustment, Teams make adjustments to counter strengths, so don't expect them to be the same as last year. just a thought for you.
     
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    How do you know JP will play conservatively? If Mcgahee can't get his running going, he's going to have to throw the ball. You can't just run Mcgahee on every play, you'll get crushed. Expect the Texans to put 8 men in the box and dare Losman to throw at them.
     
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    Mcgahee had 8 in the box all last year too, do you think anyone feared Bledsoe?


    Losman will play conservativly because thats the game plan... I don't expect alot of points in this game.
     
  17. WillisXPress

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    WR's:

    Johnson- 1142yds 6TD's
    Gaffney- 632yds 2TD's
    Bradford- 399yds 3TD's

    Moulds- 1043yds 5 TD's
    Evans- 843yds 9TD's

    I think its pretty safe to say that however you pair them up, the Bills WR's are more productive..... Johnson is only better than Moulds because he's younger. Keep in mind that Lee Evans didn't play on a regular basis until week 5 last year as he was a rookie, he would have easily had 1000 yards and 10-12 TD's had he been a starter on opening day.

    OL:
    Very debatable.... I haven't been a fan of our OL much in years, but yours isn't much differant, I'll call it a wash.

    DB's: Dunta is very good, hes not clements good yet. McGee is underrated as a corner, but Buchanon is over rated IMO.... Our safties have like 15 probowls between them or something like that. With Troy vincent at safety we have three guys who can man up a WR at all times.

    Our special teams will be great again, they have been all preseasn, and we have Jason Peters as our secret weapon... he s a 300lb guy who runs a 4.8, hes a lead blocker and wedge buster... I dare anyone on your team to try and hold a block against a man that big moving that fast on a mission to injure.
     
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    I think McGahee can catch the ball just fine. Matter of fact i wish they would throw it too him more often!
     
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    Forget all the matchups.

    I think the deciding point in the Texans vs Bills game is going to be JP Loseman.

    If you think the Texans are going to sit back and let Losman handoff the ball all game to your RB you are crazy. The Texans are going to be throwing in a mix of crazy blitzes and run stuffing plays untill the Losman can prove that he can step up and get it done in the air.

    Look for this game to be either Losman's coming out party or the Bills fan's "Oh Crap, this is our starting QB?" party.

    Any way you look at it the Bills are not the '04 Steelers and Losman will not have the same luxuries that Rothlisberger had.

    good luck both teams and I hope there are no major injuries.

    PS: this game could actually mean alot, it might be the Wildcard tie breaker.
     
  20. ATX

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    They feared Bledsoe alot more than Losman i guarantee that. We fear Holcomb alot more than Losman, Holcomb has played like a hall of famer against us. I guess since you know the gameplan, we better tell the texans coaches to read your posts to get an insight. Man, you don't know the gameplan, it's all your opinions as of now.
     

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