Houston Texans may have a real offense? Oh my!

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  1. rockabilly

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    Anyone else excited that we may start to see an NFL level offense in Houston? I know some are upset that we are going so hardcore on offense, but I personally feel it is needed if we are going to get some respect in this league. The Texans offense has been the laughing stock of football in general for too long.

    I personally think that our defense is not in that bad of shape. I truly feel that the schemes we ran (especially last year) didnt allow for the players to make plays. I think we will see immediate improvement next year in defense.

    Im ready for the season...HURRY UPPPPPPPPP! Im running out of things to do on Sunday.
     
  2. TexanFanInCC

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    i like what we have going offensively. im still unsold about david carr because, yes he hasnt had a great offensive line at any point of his career, he had great protection in the final game against the 49ers (a 4-12 team) and pretty much nearly had the worst game of his career. i do think he takes too much time in the pocket, fails to find open recievers, and doesnt have good touch. im not saying we need a change, but i sure hope that he shows drastic improvement. similar to joey harrington, there will be no excuses this time, especially if we add guys like john runyan to the line.

    i agree here. the 4-3 allows babin and peek to play positions theyre accustomed to. i feel that peek may be a tad bone-headed in the run defense, but his passrush is definitely going to improve if he is at the line. the new stances/setups for babin and peek should show an improvement. i still think we need help at linebacker. i like kailee wong, but man i would love to see aj hawk at mlb. of course drafting bush doesnt help, but ya never know what will happen bc CC has thrown out all sorts of different scenarios like trades and such.
     
  3. jerek

    jerek Pro Hobbyist

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    I emphatically agree.
     
  4. Frills

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    Umm Carr got hurt in the SF game, Banks pllayed most of it.
     
  5. TEXANS84

    TEXANS84 Moderator Staff Member

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    6 out of the top 10 passing offenses did not make the playoffs.
    6 out of the top 10 defenses made the playoffs.

    Although, the offense needs to be addressed..it better be countered with a good defense as well.
     
  6. Texans Pride

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    I like when D says things....He's always right on the money
     
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  7. Maddict5

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    the cards had top 10 in both and didnt make it.
    the reason alot of those passing teams didnt make it is they had no rushing game which we have- if we could get a passing game i think we'd be close enough to the playoffs
     
  8. Texans_Chick

    Texans_Chick Utopian Dreamer

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    Chickens and eggs.

    If your base offense is 3 and out, and your defense is on the field for too much of the game, they are gonna get tired.

    That being said, the defense was way worse last season and that is why we ended up having the record we did.

    We just didn't have enough top players at enough positions. And we are painfully inexperienced and lacking depth at many positions. As much love as people have for various rookies in this draft, rookies make mistakes (fail to execute. ha), and we best hope we get a couple of key FAs and that the players we have been drafting over the last couple of years feel more comfortable in their positions and can just play. (It is hard to play when you are thinking too much--it is just the nature of athletics).

    I cannot wait for the season to begin either. I would love to see a product on the field that looks more like NFL football.

    :texflag:
     


  9. Malloy

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    100% in compliance :)
     
  10. yourfavoritetexan42

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    carr's best game was agains the 49ers, he did exactly what he was told to do. Lose.
     
  11. TEXANS84

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    Interestingly enough, I started doing some math:

    If you take the playoff teams and add up their rankings:

    Offense
    2. Seattle
    3. Indy
    4. NY
    5. Denver
    6. Cincy
    7. NE
    11. Washington
    15. Jax
    16. Pitt
    22. Carolina
    23. Tampa
    29. Chicago

    Then their defense:
    1. Tampa
    2. Chicago
    3. Carolina
    4. Pitt
    6. Jax
    9. Washington
    11. Indy
    15. Denver
    17. Seattle
    24. NY
    26. NE
    28. Cincy

    The average ends up being ranked 11.91 in offense, and 12.2 in defense in the NFL. Interestingly enough, only 12 teams can make the playoffs which seems to be the average rankings of the teams that made last year's playoffs.
    Side note* Both Superbowl teams (Seattle and Pittsburgh) combined offense/defensive rankings were exactly the same at 9.5.
     
  12. thunderkyss

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    Now that's some spooky stuff.
     
  13. Cjeremy635

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    Nice post Texans84.......some solid data to chew on for a while. Keep 'em coming.
     
  14. ClintonPortis26

    ClintonPortis26 Rookie

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    Instead of Reggie Bush, you should take sombody such as SanAntonio Holmes, Chad Jackson, Vernon Davis, or D'Brickashaw Ferguson. But since your GM is Casserly your probally gonna pick the fan favorite or the best college player avaible even though you have absolutly no use for him.



    COOOOOOOOOOOOMEEEEE ONNNNNNNNNNN NOW HOOOUSSTONNN....


    D'Brickashaw in 06...
     
  15. Meloy

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    Isn't it great that the new defensive guy from KC brings such great experience indicating our D will improve? Also, I understand Kube's Offense is run oriented so another reason for you to be ecstatic.:yahoo:
     
  16. Meloy

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    Each of the 32 teams would have a use for Bush. If you don't like him, say so. A comment that Texans have "no use" is ridiculous.

    Wrong post quoted. Sorry Cjeremy635. I was referring ClintonPortis 26.
     
  17. El Tejano

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    Actually we were winning and Banks went to the coach and said "coach I can make us lose. You need an interception? I can make that throw"
     
  18. keyfro

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    well i'm a defensive guy...i could watch defensive football games all day and be happy...but with the majority of the money on this team going towards the offense it makes sense to shore it up first...if we can get the offense to work...where the majority of their drives aren't 3 and out...then our defense will progress...remember last year our defense was on the field twice as much as our offense...we just need to get the right lineman here...add a veteran receiver (cough bruce cough isaac bruce) and everydown TE and our offense i think under kubiak will be much better...the defense will progress as long as the offense is doing it's thing
     
  19. Runner

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    Wow - that was an unexpected result.

    Were these ranking of yardage made/given up, points scored/allowed, or ??????
     
  20. TEXANS84

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    Overall defense and offense rankings via nfl.com:
    http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-TOTAL/2005/regular?sort_col_1=4
    http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular?sort_col_1=4

    Cincy (17), New England (16.5) and Chicago (15.5) rounded out the bottom while Indy (7), Jacksonville (7.75) and the two superbowl teams (9.5 each) rounded out the top.

    Cincy (although having a #6 offense) got hurt with the #28th ranked defense.
     

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