Greg Ellis -- DE

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  1. Historyhorn

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    What are the chances that the Texans might be players for acquiring Greg Ellis from the Cowboys either through trade or waiting until he gets an outright release.

    Ellis is a former first rounder for the Cowboys who has had over 70 sacks in his career. He is surely on the down slope of his career, but has been productive every step of the way including a switch from being an elite DE in the 4-3 to still being a difference maker at OLB in the 3-4.

    I think he can still play and make a difference in the 4-3 at his more natural position and the Cowboys are dumping him because of his salary, the fact they have Anthony Spencer behind him, & his grousing about the move to 3-4 OLB.

    He's not a long term solution, but it would be dang nice to have another DL to add to the rotation in addition to Mario & Smith. As the Giants proved, you can't have too many good DL that can get after the QB.

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  2. Ole Miss Texan

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    I like our chances with Mario and Smith as our bookends and then Barwin and Bulman being situational pass rushers. I wouldn't want to trade anything for another DE, if he becomes a FA then maybe see what he's got.
     
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    Nah, we've been there, tried it with Colvin. I'll pass
     
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  5. El Tejano

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    The only reason I wouldn't want to do it is because he wouldn't be here long. That being said, I think he would be awesome to have because I feel like Mario could still learn from a good quality veteran like Ellis. Mario did well when Kalu was there to teach him, he could possibly be better with a guy like Ellis.

    However, I also feel like there are too many only ifs with Ellis. He will go to another team only if they are on the verge of winning a championship or only if that team is a desparate team willing to pay for him etc.... Those things make me think he isn't wanting to come to us.
     
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    ditto
     
  7. ArlingtonTexan

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    Ellis has been a more consistent player than the others we have tried as the veteran pass rushing specialist and could actually play DE in a pinch. If you don't want to totally trust that Barwin comes in and gets it then Ellis is a solid option. also, given our lack of pass rush history, do you really think having another a low cost contract is a bad thing?
     
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    I'm just not sure he's going to end up wanting or getting a real low cost contract. I do think he'll likely want to go to a team where he'll play his much more natural position as a DE.

    Wouldn't surprise me to see him on a team from the NFC South.
     


  9. HOU-TEX

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    How low are we talking? I wouldn't be opposed to bringing him in on vet minimum, but I reckon he's looking for more than what we should be offering.
     
  10. ArlingtonTexan

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    Price is always an issue. I doubt anyone gives him money as he is a reserve/pass rushing specialist who is over 30. Doubt if he sees more than 1.5 to 2 million for 2009.
     
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    Let's say we happen to sign him on the cheap. Who's roster spot are you willing to give up for him?
     
  12. ArlingtonTexan

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    As we saw last year with Colvin, he would have to "earn" a spot, but if you want me to name a name, Tim Bulman. Try hard back-up, decent rotational player, but is not a starting type (see Smith signing, see Barwin drafting).

    I think Ellis is a real longshot, as these type of players (no super bowl rings, with only a year or two left) tend to go to teams which they deem on the verge of championship contention when the money is not going to be great and they have multiple suitors.
     
  13. HouSportsWriter

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    ok olb greg ellis off the cowboys is being released/traded

    just think ryans cushing and ellis????????




    SPLIT TOT SOLO AST SACK STF STFY FF BK INT YDS AVG LNG TD PD
    2008 36 25 11 8.0 0 0 0 0 1 11 11.0 11 0 1


    he has 8 sacks in 1 year ok

    he would be a great pickup if he is released

    who thinks this would be a good signing?
     
  14. brakos82

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    I'm not a football philosopher... do 3-4 OLB's translate into good 4-3 OLB's? :thinking:
     
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    duno im just saying this guy would boost us in linebackers
     
  16. V3rm0nt3r

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    there are definately bigger holes. and we JUST drafted a OLB DE tweener day 1 so no. it won't and shouldn't happen.
     
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    No.
     
  18. Goldensilence

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    Would be ok if he went back to DE, but we already signed one in the off-season that doesn't have to re-adjust to an old position. Also don't think he'd stick with the LBing corps we've finally put together.
     
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    Anyone know why the 'boys want to dump him..?
    what's the story behind that?
    I thought he was one of there studs.

    Never mind; found it.
    I vote no. One malcontent (D-Rob) is enough. Besides, I'm not sure if he'd work in our 4-3.
     
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  20. whiskeyrbl

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    I agree with the others that we went thru that with Colvin.
     

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